Anonymous wrote:…..Kansas can very reasonably be included in the Bible Belt. For the sake of the sex ed discussion. (I’m younger than Jen but went to public school in Kansas City MO and it wasn’t all that great for me either. More puberty stuff, perhaps, but I don’t think consent or contraception or pleasure were discussed meaningfully at all.)

Pleasure and consent were not touched on at all in my sex Ed in 1984 rural IL.(real similar to small town Kansas) I was a junior in college before I had date rape really explained to me in a class.

…..Kansas can very reasonably be included in the Bible Belt. For the sake of the sex ed discussion. (I’m younger than Jen but went to public school in Kansas City MO and it wasn’t all that great for me either. More puberty stuff, perhaps, but I don’t think consent or contraception or pleasure were discussed meaningfully at all.)

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Anonymous wrote:I can't anymore with the "we didn't know anything about our bodies" false narrative she relentlessly talks about. I was a middle schooler in 1981 in the Bible belt and our health class taught us all about sexual health and adolescence. Sex was seen as something actually enjoyable and therefore worth waiting for.

Jen has to crap on her past and make it so terrible to make herself look so very victimized.

I did like her candor about how she theoretically wanted to give her kids the language to talk about their sex lives, but didn't really want to have to hear about it. This was a glimpse into the old Jen, the one I felt was honest about her feelings even when they were very unwelcome and awkward.

You were absolutely an outlier is this was your 1981 Bible Belt middle school sex ed experience. I’m calling BS.

Agreed

Bible Belt ‘81 middle schooler and I was taught about sex at home, at church, and at Catholic school.
Your stereotypes of Southern Christians are just that - stereotypes.

But this misses the wider fact that Jen is not from the Bible Belt like she pretends to be

JENNIFER IS FROM *** K A N S A S ***

KANSAS
KANSAS

NOT TEXAS
NOT THE BIBLE BELT
NOT THE SOUTH
NOT EVEN CLOSE

K A N S A S

She is no more Texan than all the Californians who won’t stop moving here

K
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Oh Jen. That hair. And dark lipstick. Just no. You need to invest in a stylist girlfriend.

Anonymous wrote:Meh, she is a scammer. Convinced because even this thread is a weird mashup of things that don’t matter and things that now do matter because we’ve decided they matter. Good God. Her books started as not totally terrible but she is dramatic and insufferable and continues to ignore her place of privilege. She is going to continue to make huge sums of money and be an influential person for her audience. She is going to continue to center white womanhood and say it out loud. But it doesn’t hold water. The emperor has no clothes.

Ugh totally.

The class on our bodies in junior high during the mid eighties was very remedial in the rural Midwest. Mostly about periods. I think they did show us some forms of contraception, vaguely remember seeing a sponge.

Geesh I’m more impressed Jen’s dad the conservative pastor was talking to Jen about oral sex and role playing a week before her wedding at age 19. My parents were hippies, and medical professionals and I didn’t ever get a talk about role playing. That’s some open minded parenting for a Baptist circa 1993.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't anymore with the "we didn't know anything about our bodies" false narrative she relentlessly talks about. I was a middle schooler in 1981 in the Bible belt and our health class taught us all about sexual health and adolescence. Sex was seen as something actually enjoyable and therefore worth waiting for.

Jen has to crap on her past and make it so terrible to make herself look so very victimized.

I did like her candor about how she theoretically wanted to give her kids the language to talk about their sex lives, but didn't really want to have to hear about it. This was a glimpse into the old Jen, the one I felt was honest about her feelings even when they were very unwelcome and awkward.

You were absolutely an outlier is this was your 1981 Bible Belt middle school sex ed experience. I’m calling BS.

Agreed

Anonymous wrote:I can't anymore with the "we didn't know anything about our bodies" false narrative she relentlessly talks about. I was a middle schooler in 1981 in the Bible belt and our health class taught us all about sexual health and adolescence. Sex was seen as something actually enjoyable and therefore worth waiting for.

Jen has to crap on her past and make it so terrible to make herself look so very victimized.

I did like her candor about how she theoretically wanted to give her kids the language to talk about their sex lives, but didn't really want to have to hear about it. This was a glimpse into the old Jen, the one I felt was honest about her feelings even when they were very unwelcome and awkward.

You were absolutely an outlier is this was your 1981 Bible Belt middle school sex ed experience. I’m calling BS.

Meh, she is a scammer. Convinced because even this thread is a weird mashup of things that don’t matter and things that now do matter because we’ve decided they matter. Good God. Her books started as not totally terrible but she is dramatic and insufferable and continues to ignore her place of privilege. She is going to continue to make huge sums of money and be an influential person for her audience. She is going to continue to center white womanhood and say it out loud. But it doesn’t hold water. The emperor has no clothes.

I can't anymore with the "we didn't know anything about our bodies" false narrative she relentlessly talks about. I was a middle schooler in 1981 in the Bible belt and our health class taught us all about sexual health and adolescence. Sex was seen as something actually enjoyable and therefore worth waiting for.

Jen has to crap on her past and make it so terrible to make herself look so very victimized.

I did like her candor about how she theoretically wanted to give her kids the language to talk about their sex lives, but didn't really want to have to hear about it. This was a glimpse into the old Jen, the one I felt was honest about her feelings even when they were very unwelcome and awkward.

Anonymous wrote:I had to google her. Never heard of her. She sounds unremarkable at best.

It’d be easy to think so but her “for the love” podcast has had 42.8 million downloads/listens in the past five years. That’s a lot of marketing power. I struggle to get my own family and friends to listen to me for any length of time in the midst of our full lives. Yet somehow she gotten people to put in millions of minutes listening to her pontificate on many varying subjects of her choosing.

Our concern is with the misuse of her voice to shill products to line her pockets instead of doing something of real value like she used to espouse. She will pretend her legacy collective is this mighty philanthropic mission when in reality it’s a bloated handler that takes a 26% cut before the donations get to their actual ministry. Which will take more for their overhead. This is not noble, it’s exploitation. She could simply direct people to quality non profits to support directly but that wouldn’t allow her ego to take credit for the 5 million dollars her non profit has given away. Minus that pesky 26% for administrative fees.😲

I had to google her. Never heard of her. She sounds unremarkable at best.

Honestly, they’re both couple of train wrecks desperately trying to maintain some relevancy to their dwindling fan bases. Granted, his is a much smaller fan base, but he Brandi wants so much to be seen as a man’s man and not the meek pastor he was for 10+ years. Why do you think he’s 50’but acting like he’s Koe F’n Wetzel. He wants to be the cool, fun, partying, but tough guy. Problem is, he isn’t. He’s “not that guy, pal.” He never was. He landed the hot girl at bible college who was miss popular. He’s always been in the background and taking a backseat to Jennifer. It only exacerbated with her grown fan base and popularity in the world on social media. She left him in the f’n dust and he couldn’t stomach it anymore. He gained a sense of self with his biker dress up buddies. It was more fun and rewarding than the same mundane sermons and church stuff. So…. Drinking, riding, hangin with the boys became his outlet. Their marriage was in autopilot. A cute girl here or there gives him attention and before you know it, he’s drowning his guilt in booze or possibly pills and the spiral begins.

That’s my take anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes I was kind of surprised with as much as Jen acts like Ben is her favorite, Brandon is the one driving him to college, and carrying all of his stuff, and helping him move in.. And Ben is smiling and looks pretty happy about it

I think Brandon posts any time he does any parenting—which seems to only be the fun/easy stuff—and maybe that’s why Jen makes all of the passive aggressive remarks about being a single mom.

Yes. I have friends whose exes are the same…their social media would make you think they we super involved and did so much with their kids, but those who see the day to day know they just literally post about every time they are together. I wondered the same about Brandon.