Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?

Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Forecast has Terry winning 52-48, with big early voting lead and turnout higher than it was when GOP did well. At the end of the day, VA is a rock solid blue state.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin's lead in the polls increased again.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/virginia/

Yep

I don't get the obsession over the polls. It's not just this election.

Is it like a peer pressure thing? Like, you can't just vote for the candidate you think has the best policies and would help our state/country the most and feel confidant about it. You need to know that other people are also voting for her/him?

Are you that insecure with your decision?

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Forecast has Terry winning 52-48, with big early voting lead and turnout higher than it was when GOP did well. At the end of the day, VA is a rock solid blue state.

Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?

Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats with a big lead in early voting, which is to be expected. McAullife with a one point lead in the latest poll of likely voters. Statistical dead heat.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/29/virginias-governors-race-remains-a-dead-heat-in-polls-but-democrats-lead-in-early-voting.html

Narrator: It’s not “the latest poll of likely voters” See, e.g., polls released today, November 1, 2021. That said, it’s looking like Terry is going go back to Richmond as governor.

Anonymous wrote:What was the differential between Biden 2020 and McAuliffe yesterday in the relevant NOVA areas?

Anyone have that off hand? That is the key to how much the schools mattered.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.

I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.

Yeah, I keep seeing news stories about how things are so bad that Afghan families are selling their young daughters. Not a good look. Also let me know if there's a place I can donate that's helping these families so they don't have to do that.

DP.. majority of Americans wanted the US to pullout. I'm not sure what you thought would happen

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?

So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?

Are you kidding?? Yes. I see we have a very succinct illustration of why Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot.

They just don’t get it. It’s not coddling to refrain from labeling every person who agrees with some Republican ideas as a racist or uneducated.

Disagreeing doesn't mean you're uneducated, no. However, when given specific, cited examples of how your disagreeing idea is untrue and still believing it anyway... well, that's being uneducated in my book.

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Actually non college educated white women came out in droves for Youngkin. So it can be inferred with a fair degrees of confidence that his voters were defiantly not of superior intelligence, based upon that one little factoid, not to mention that they were so easily encouraged to vote against their own self interests. So yes the lack of a college degree. Especially when we are talking about white women in this area is a pretty good indication of a less than average level of intelligence. superior but by definition definitely more intelligent, you do know that white women without a college definition came out in droves for Yoingkin.

I’ll never understand why people vote against their own self interests. If you only knew just how insulated people like me are from decisions people like you make you’d never stop weeping. The fact is that many people vote for dems because we want our country, states and towns to be better for everyone. I didn’t lose a dime under trump. I didn’t miss a day of work because I was able to work from home, and I will be able to going forward. I have great health insurance, I live very comfortably in a really safe neighborhood, my kids go to the best public schools in the area, oh and I will retire in a few years because I’ve amassed more wealth than I could possibly spend in my golden years, and I’m 50, which means I’ll pass on wealth to my offspring.

Yep I am a democrat but the truth is there are a lot of people in this area whose lives aren’t really affected one way or the other. They don’t live anywhere near the edge. I do well regardless of who is in power. I truly feel sorry for all of the rubes who bought into the nonsense that was spewed during this election. But keep voting against your own self interests after all the less you have, the more I have, and quite frankly if you don’t care why should I.

Now buckle up buttercups, or should I say bittercups and hang onto those bootstraps Because you are going to need too. Youngkin lied to get your vote your life and your schools will be no better this time next year and mine will be not have changed at all.

The quiet parts out loud.

Truth, and I love you for saying it. The lives of the people in Red Virginia will get shittier under Youngkin and they will never figure out that they did it to themselves. I have enough money to buy my way out of any mess Youngkin creates, but they can’t say the same. Sure, put vouchers in place. It won’t be enough to cover private school tuition but I can more than afford the difference. Middle class Bob in western Loudoun? Not so much. Enjoy your defunded public school, Bob!

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.

No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.

OMG MY KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING CRT. PROMISE KEPT. WOW
on DAY 1 he banned CRT.

The levels of stupid to this post are astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.

No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to not live in VA, poor N VA is stuck with Kentucky politics.

While you are stuck with Kentucky population

DP ? MD has a moderate, Trump hating R governor. VA has a Trump lover for a governor.

The "Kentucky" population is tiny in MD and wants to join WVA. VA has a Trump lover leading the state, so it appears that there are more "Kentucky population" in VA than MD.

Well there are larger pockets of Kentucky population in Baltimore. That’s why the Western counties want to leave. Annapolis is trying to shift Baltimore to Western Maryland.

? not doubting that there are those in MD, but it seems VA has even more. Hence why Youngkin won. Also, I guess your definition of KY population is "black people"?

No poor people. But leave it to a Dem to make racist inferences.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so happy this morning, for the people of Virginia and all of us as Americans.

We are back.

Biden and Kamala are toast. That is the real story now.

And make no mistake about it: This was a Culture Wars win. This election was about CRT. Next up is the trans agenda in our public schools. Yes, we're coming for you too. Enough is Enough.

Well, at least one person is willing to say it out loud.

We should all say this aloud. I vote Dem and we are losing because of our smug take on the culture war.

We won on LGBT rights with same sex marriage and anti discrimination laws, but then waaaaay too far with the neopronouns, XY people in womens sports, “men will never take advantage of new bathroom laws!” crap.

BLM galvanized the country and opened even my very conservative family’s eyes, but then no one was able to turn this into any actual change for the better and instead Dems just focus on shaming white “Karens” with no goal in sight.

Dems have been saying “follow the science” on vaccines, but then go overboard with school closures when the science says the risk of the virus to children is minuscule.

People want affordable healthcare, parental leave, and good infrastructure, but instead all the Dems offer is endless cultural shaming because talk is cheap and legislation is hard. You’re handing the country to the GOP on a platter. (They don’t have any brilliant solutions either, but the Dems are being so annoying no one even blames them for that.)

+1 The most sensible post on the thread. Thank you.

NP and I would take this one step further.

Democrats wage these cultural wars so earnestly because they fundamentally don’t threaten the real entrenched interests in this country: corporations and the rich. This is why they are having so much trouble legislating when policies like, having the government negotiate prescription drug prices are a no brainer. Paid family leave is a no brainer. Reversing the Trump tax cuts is a no brainer. But no, they threaten corporations and the rich, so the Democrats fail. And what do they have to fall back on? Rainbow pins and “loving” cheap illegal immigrant labor.

The Dems are just as entrenched in corporate politics as Rs. It’s no coincidence Obama became a millionaire the second he left office and spends months on Richard Branson’s islands instead of his 3 and counting mansions. Half his administration left to work at Google, Facebook, and the like. Eventually the parties will need to realign to corporatist vs worker, instead of “liberal” vs. “conservative”.