Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:52     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:Gun nutters aren’t “decent people”, so good luck trying to convince me that establishing laws that are punitive against people owning murder-tools is somehow affecting “decent people”.

What a specious argument.


Firearms aren’t “murder tools” any more than automobiles, steak and kitchen knives, hammers, yard tools, chain saws, household chemicals, baseball bats, golf clubs and toilet tank covers, all of which are criminally misused. Your comment demonstrates the delusion that somehow controlling inanimate objects (an impossibility) will control misuse of them by people who care nothing for the law and clearly do not fear the current criminal justice system. If firearms are “murder tools,” public officials should be the first deprived of them.

And name calling people whose legitimate choices you disagree with is an admission that you know you’re wrong before you start.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:22     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:And now the Pentagon is under lockdown because of a shooting at the metro station. When will our local leaders wake up?!

The minute we start living in a legitimate democracy which will probably be never.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:16     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:Gun nutters aren’t “decent people”, so good luck trying to convince me that establishing laws that are punitive against people owning murder-tools is somehow affecting “decent people”.

What a specious argument.



No one needs to convince you of anything, you have made up your mind. You hate us, but only the ones who own guns legally, we get it.


But you can't and won't do anything about it. So just stay in your attic and do your crossword puzzles.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:15     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

And now the Pentagon is under lockdown because of a shooting at the metro station. When will our local leaders wake up?!
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:13     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.




DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




Why should people in other jurisdictions be penalized because DC won’t enforce either it’s own laws or federal laws?

Interstate sales of firearms other than through a federally licensed dealer are already prohibited by federal law.

What is a “comprehensive” background check? Do you know that MD and DC already have background check laws?

Lost and stolen gun reporting. Great idea! Punish theft victims! Because knowing immediately that a gun has been stolen will magically render it instantly recoverable.

Strict licensing and audits for gun dealers. Do you have any conception what it takes to have and maintain a federal (and local) firearms dealer license? Do you have any idea how often and in what depth both federal and state authorities already inspect and audit gun dealers? And by the way, there are NO licensed gun dealers in DC.

Firearm registration. Already required in MD and DC. Effectively required for all dealer sales anyway under federal law.

Permit to purchase. DC and MD have had this for years.

Gun “buybacks.” Proven to be a silly, pointless, financially wasteful program. Also defies logic, since the government cannot buy back what it never owned.

The idea that completely unknowledgeable people have anything meaningful to say when they parrot back the talking points of advocacy groups really is ridiculous. The vast majority of all your brilliant “solutions” are already in place.

You know what’s not in place? Any meaningful effort to arrest people who unlawfully own and misuse firearms and imprison them long enough that they aren’t a hazard when, or if, they’re released.


+1

It is refreshing to see someone who knows what they're talking about in this arena.



Gun knowledge isn’t something smart people brag about. It’s trash.


You couldn't have stated the progressive views any better. Knowing the laws are trash.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:12     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Criminal acquisition of firearms is already double-plus unlawful. Read the prior posts. Or better yet, do some research.

Law enforcement has plenty of capability and tools to trace recovered crime guns, as evidenced by the near-immediate news reports detailing how various “mass shooters” acquired their firearms. What do you expect the tracing to reveal? That a registered owner used a firearm unlawfully? Please. That criminals found accomplices to make (already unlawful) straw purchases and then (already unlawfully) transferred the firearms to others?

Focusing on inanimate objects is pointless, as decades of failed “gun control” efforts prove. Locking up prohibited people in possession of firearms for ten years will address the real problem. But nobody wants to do that.


Yep. This would help a lot. Let all the "beefing" happen with knives and fists; at least that way random passerby aren't caught by flying bullets.


DP. In DC, that policy would have a disparate impact involving African-American men. So it would be considered racist and will never happen.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 11:00     Subject: Re:Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Criminal acquisition of firearms is already double-plus unlawful. Read the prior posts. Or better yet, do some research.

Law enforcement has plenty of capability and tools to trace recovered crime guns, as evidenced by the near-immediate news reports detailing how various “mass shooters” acquired their firearms. What do you expect the tracing to reveal? That a registered owner used a firearm unlawfully? Please. That criminals found accomplices to make (already unlawful) straw purchases and then (already unlawfully) transferred the firearms to others?

Focusing on inanimate objects is pointless, as decades of failed “gun control” efforts prove. Locking up prohibited people in possession of firearms for ten years will address the real problem. But nobody wants to do that.


Yep. This would help a lot. Let all the "beefing" happen with knives and fists; at least that way random passerby aren't caught by flying bullets.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 10:45     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 10:25     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Gun nutters aren’t “decent people”, so good luck trying to convince me that establishing laws that are punitive against people owning murder-tools is somehow affecting “decent people”.

What a specious argument.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 09:51     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.




DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




Why should people in other jurisdictions be penalized because DC won’t enforce either it’s own laws or federal laws?

Interstate sales of firearms other than through a federally licensed dealer are already prohibited by federal law.

What is a “comprehensive” background check? Do you know that MD and DC already have background check laws?

Lost and stolen gun reporting. Great idea! Punish theft victims! Because knowing immediately that a gun has been stolen will magically render it instantly recoverable.

Strict licensing and audits for gun dealers. Do you have any conception what it takes to have and maintain a federal (and local) firearms dealer license? Do you have any idea how often and in what depth both federal and state authorities already inspect and audit gun dealers? And by the way, there are NO licensed gun dealers in DC.

Firearm registration. Already required in MD and DC. Effectively required for all dealer sales anyway under federal law.

Permit to purchase. DC and MD have had this for years.

Gun “buybacks.” Proven to be a silly, pointless, financially wasteful program. Also defies logic, since the government cannot buy back what it never owned.

The idea that completely unknowledgeable people have anything meaningful to say when they parrot back the talking points of advocacy groups really is ridiculous. The vast majority of all your brilliant “solutions” are already in place.

You know what’s not in place? Any meaningful effort to arrest people who unlawfully own and misuse firearms and imprison them long enough that they aren’t a hazard when, or if, they’re released.


None of those are “penalties”.

VA has made progress in the last year but has more to go.

I should have included WV as well…such a mess.

None of these infringe on “rights” and would certainly reduce gun violence. You want guns? Take some responsibility for making them difficult for criminals to acquire.



How do you feel about voter ID? Is that a penalty? Why not? Shouldn’t felons prohibited from voting have to pass a background check before being allowed to register.

Decent people have no obligation to prevent the criminal acts of others. The “solutions” you advocated are demonstrably ineffective. Further, they impose at least indirect, and frequently direct, financial obstacles on firearm ownership that fall most heavily on the decent but very low-income people who most need access to the efficacious means of self defense. Getting a handgun purchase permit in Maryland requires hundreds of dollars in costs and fees. Then there is an additional fee to REPEAT the same background check when the person goes to buy a pistol. Suppose voter registration entailed identical fees? Suppose there was an identical tax imposed on abortion, birth control or other rights no found anywhere in the Constitution? The right of decent people to maintain firearms is a constitutionally enumerated civil right.

Punish criminals, not decent people.

Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 09:39     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.



DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




DP. What you don’t understand is that most of the violent criminals are already using illegal guns. The gun control laws aren’t stopping them from their violent criminal behavior.


So make them more difficult for criminals to acquire.

Give LEO tools to trace and crack down on sources.


Criminal acquisition of firearms is already double-plus unlawful. Read the prior posts. Or better yet, do some research.

Law enforcement has plenty of capability and tools to trace recovered crime guns, as evidenced by the near-immediate news reports detailing how various “mass shooters” acquired their firearms. What do you expect the tracing to reveal? That a registered owner used a firearm unlawfully? Please. That criminals found accomplices to make (already unlawful) straw purchases and then (already unlawfully) transferred the firearms to others?

Focusing on inanimate objects is pointless, as decades of failed “gun control” efforts prove. Locking up prohibited people in possession of firearms for ten years will address the real problem. But nobody wants to do that.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 08:54     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.



DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




DP. What you don’t understand is that most of the violent criminals are already using illegal guns. The gun control laws aren’t stopping them from their violent criminal behavior.


So make them more difficult for criminals to acquire.

Give LEO tools to trace and crack down on sources.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 08:50     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.




DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




Why should people in other jurisdictions be penalized because DC won’t enforce either it’s own laws or federal laws?

Interstate sales of firearms other than through a federally licensed dealer are already prohibited by federal law.

What is a “comprehensive” background check? Do you know that MD and DC already have background check laws?

Lost and stolen gun reporting. Great idea! Punish theft victims! Because knowing immediately that a gun has been stolen will magically render it instantly recoverable.

Strict licensing and audits for gun dealers. Do you have any conception what it takes to have and maintain a federal (and local) firearms dealer license? Do you have any idea how often and in what depth both federal and state authorities already inspect and audit gun dealers? And by the way, there are NO licensed gun dealers in DC.

Firearm registration. Already required in MD and DC. Effectively required for all dealer sales anyway under federal law.

Permit to purchase. DC and MD have had this for years.

Gun “buybacks.” Proven to be a silly, pointless, financially wasteful program. Also defies logic, since the government cannot buy back what it never owned.

The idea that completely unknowledgeable people have anything meaningful to say when they parrot back the talking points of advocacy groups really is ridiculous. The vast majority of all your brilliant “solutions” are already in place.

You know what’s not in place? Any meaningful effort to arrest people who unlawfully own and misuse firearms and imprison them long enough that they aren’t a hazard when, or if, they’re released.


None of those are “penalties”.

VA has made progress in the last year but has more to go.

I should have included WV as well…such a mess.

None of these infringe on “rights” and would certainly reduce gun violence. You want guns? Take some responsibility for making them difficult for criminals to acquire.

Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 07:22     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.




DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




Why should people in other jurisdictions be penalized because DC won’t enforce either it’s own laws or federal laws?

Interstate sales of firearms other than through a federally licensed dealer are already prohibited by federal law.

What is a “comprehensive” background check? Do you know that MD and DC already have background check laws?

Lost and stolen gun reporting. Great idea! Punish theft victims! Because knowing immediately that a gun has been stolen will magically render it instantly recoverable.

Strict licensing and audits for gun dealers. Do you have any conception what it takes to have and maintain a federal (and local) firearms dealer license? Do you have any idea how often and in what depth both federal and state authorities already inspect and audit gun dealers? And by the way, there are NO licensed gun dealers in DC.

Firearm registration. Already required in MD and DC. Effectively required for all dealer sales anyway under federal law.

Permit to purchase. DC and MD have had this for years.

Gun “buybacks.” Proven to be a silly, pointless, financially wasteful program. Also defies logic, since the government cannot buy back what it never owned.

The idea that completely unknowledgeable people have anything meaningful to say when they parrot back the talking points of advocacy groups really is ridiculous. The vast majority of all your brilliant “solutions” are already in place.

You know what’s not in place? Any meaningful effort to arrest people who unlawfully own and misuse firearms and imprison them long enough that they aren’t a hazard when, or if, they’re released.


+1

It is refreshing to see someone who knows what they're talking about in this arena.



Gun knowledge isn’t something smart people brag about. It’s trash.


DP but the most trash thing is not knowledge of gun policy, it's having an incompetent mayor, soft DA, and neutered police force
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2021 00:41     Subject: Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's another one
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/07/gunfire-injures-4-people-in-southeast-dc/


Since you are so “concerned” I hope you are pushing hard for:
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.

In addition to revitalizing & rebuilding communities - education, jobs, healthcare, support for at-risk youth, etc.




DP. Stop being ridiculous. Who wouldn’t be concerned by increased gun violence? If you’re not, I’d love for you to explain your reasoning.


“Increased”? Are you new to DC?

I am concerned about decades of gun violence and I do push for common sense gun laws. You support those, right?


“Common sense.” Another marketing label for punishing decent people because criminals misuse firearms, just like they misuse vehicles, baggies, scales and all sorts of other things. Do you have any idea how many gun laws DC already has? Why should people outside DC (or even decent people inside DC) be penalized, impeded n the exercise of an enumerated civil right, and deprived of their choice of recreation and an efficacious means of self defense because criminals in DC won’t obey the law and DC won’t use the tools it has available, including federal “exile” programs for felons who unlawfully possess firearms? When has “registration” (already required in DC) ever solved a crime? When did purchase permits (already required in MD and DC) ever stop criminals from getting guns. Tons of illegally manufactured, illegally imported, illegally possessed and illegally sold drugs pass through DC streets every year. How has that prohibition worked out?


You aren’t losing any rights going through a background check. GMAFB.


No, you GMAFB. DC law ALREADY prohibits private sales, already requires background checks, and already requires registration. Have you even tried to find that out before running your (figurative) yap about something you know nothing about?

How many prohibited persons has DC caught in the last five years via background check unlawfully attempting to buy firearms? How many have been prosecuted? How many went away federally for the potential ten years?

Obviously not enough.


So then you aren’t impacted. Why are you complaining?

Here is what I’d like to see to bring down gun violence in the DC area.
Comprehensive background checks for private sales in DC, MD, VA.
Strict licensing & audits for gun dealers in DC, MD, VA.
Enforce lost & stolen gun reporting laws in DC, MD, VA.
Firearm registration in DC, MD, VA.
Permit to purchase in DC, MD, VA.
Gun buyback programs in DC, MD, VA.




Why should people in other jurisdictions be penalized because DC won’t enforce either it’s own laws or federal laws?

Interstate sales of firearms other than through a federally licensed dealer are already prohibited by federal law.

What is a “comprehensive” background check? Do you know that MD and DC already have background check laws?

Lost and stolen gun reporting. Great idea! Punish theft victims! Because knowing immediately that a gun has been stolen will magically render it instantly recoverable.

Strict licensing and audits for gun dealers. Do you have any conception what it takes to have and maintain a federal (and local) firearms dealer license? Do you have any idea how often and in what depth both federal and state authorities already inspect and audit gun dealers? And by the way, there are NO licensed gun dealers in DC.

Firearm registration. Already required in MD and DC. Effectively required for all dealer sales anyway under federal law.

Permit to purchase. DC and MD have had this for years.

Gun “buybacks.” Proven to be a silly, pointless, financially wasteful program. Also defies logic, since the government cannot buy back what it never owned.

The idea that completely unknowledgeable people have anything meaningful to say when they parrot back the talking points of advocacy groups really is ridiculous. The vast majority of all your brilliant “solutions” are already in place.

You know what’s not in place? Any meaningful effort to arrest people who unlawfully own and misuse firearms and imprison them long enough that they aren’t a hazard when, or if, they’re released.


+1

It is refreshing to see someone who knows what they're talking about in this arena.



Gun knowledge isn’t something smart people brag about. It’s trash.