Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't. You are undermining the NIMBY argument.

It's cute how you think that if you say NIMBY enough times you'll somehow persuade people that River's applications for zoning exceptions should be granted.

It wouldn't. You are undermining the NIMBY argument.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

No one objected because the sign says they can do it. Take it up with DC government.

You've entirely missed the point - no one was concerned about the parked cars creating traffic problems enough to take it up with the DC government. Why would removing that parking and having cars waiting in line there cause greater traffic issues? In either case the road is one lane wide.

Any updates from last night’s meeting?

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Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

No one objected because the sign says they can do it. Take it up with DC government.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

You are correct - my kids have been attending NPS for 6+ years and I can’t figure out why the traffic seems so much worse this year. Again, I sit in the parking lot for carpool but the traffic on Van Ness and Nebraska seems so much worse?

First off, perceptions of traffic have to relate back to 2019, the last time things were "normal" - kind of hard to remember that far back!

Second, in addition to other traffic, there are probably fewer people using early drop off/late pickup because more people are working from home, so they can drop/pick kids at normal times rather than on way back from downtown.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

You are correct - my kids have been attending NPS for 6+ years and I can’t figure out why the traffic seems so much worse this year. Again, I sit in the parking lot for carpool but the traffic on Van Ness and Nebraska seems so much worse?

More people driving instead of using metro. More people not using Wisconsin due to construction. More people driving to GDS and then through the neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

You are correct - my kids have been attending NPS for 6+ years and I can’t figure out why the traffic seems so much worse this year. Again, I sit in the parking lot for carpool but the traffic on Van Ness and Nebraska seems so much worse?

Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

Oddly no one previously objected to the line of parked cars along both sides of Nebraska outside of rush hour. It's a single traffic lane from AU law school to 42nd street until 4pm (or later if people don't move cars).

Anonymous wrote:The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

NPS carline is contained because it loops within the school. Also, their afternoon carline is two lanes. No issues at all.

The NPS carpool line has been crazy lately bc of how much the traffic backs up around the school. NPs has the huge parking lot so the achool traffic sits in that (so better for the neighborhood) but i can’t imagine adding more cars to the road at 3 pm bc it already feels so congested!!!

"on October 14, 2021, ANC 3E voted 4-1 to OPPOSE the River School Plan to relocate, rezone, and redevelop the property at 4220 Nebraska NW".

they may still prevail at the Board of Zoning Approval (BZA). They have scheduled a hearing for Wednesday, October 27 at 9:30AM via WebEX (see DCOZ.DC.GOV).

NPS has a huge parking lot and traffic snakes through. Traffic spilling onto Nebraska will be a big bummer.

Anonymous wrote:For anyone who is interested in River's actual plans rather than the fearmongering, here they are: https://anc3e.org/wp-content/uploads/River-School-Presentation-to-ANC3E-0210.pdf

Traffic is all off Nebraska with a large U-shaped drop-off entirely self-contained on their property, just like NPS across the street. The "health clinic" is the same as the one on their current campus and is a very small pediatric hearing clinic -- not exactly a heavy driver of traffic!

Fearmongering?

It does sound like a huge safety hazard to have something of this size come in without any way to contain the traffic and safety implications it will bring to this part of DC. Your materials are severely outdated, aren't they? Where is the 661 page CTR they submitted with figures from early 2013? 2014? That is scary!

The health clinic is over 14,000 square feet - no where near the same one on their current campus. Please refresh your materials or just remove the smoke.

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Anonymous wrote:They posted the traffic study - basically it says lots of the places they looked are already well over capacity during the hours they’re going to have people coming and going.


https://riverschool.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The-River-School-Final-CTR-9-10-21.pdf

So why would they try and shove an oversized campus onto a housing lot? It doesn't make sense to me and seems like a force.

We need more housing.

Agree -- more affordable housing.