Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.
PP here. Okay. I can agree with that, but I do think there's more here in that their behavior was callous and showed no regard for another person's suffering. Very disturbing behavior.
I agree. And even more shocking that they are 1) girls and 2) so young.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.
PP here. Okay. I can agree with that, but I do think there's more here in that their behavior was callous and showed no regard for another person's suffering. Very disturbing behavior.
Anonymous wrote:Have anyone heard from the teen girls family or community? I’m curious what they think.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace
It’s getting a lot of run in conservative social media because of the perpetrators and CNN’s botched description - there’s quite a bit of red hat money pouring in.
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!
They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!
But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace
It’s getting a lot of run in conservative social media because of the perpetrators and CNN’s botched description - there’s quite a bit of red hat money pouring in.
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace