Anonymous wrote:I think most colleges will close in a month, even those with testing. It is a highly contagious disease. I'll still send my dd back this weekend as the odds are good for her age. Even with an outbreak, I'd rather see her educated. Honestly, after it rips through campus, there should be herd immunity. If there isn't, no vaccine will work and colleges will be online for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

Hmm. You may not realize ND doesn't have the cachet it once had and doesn't have top tier students. I am anti Trump though and so are a good number of ND parents.

This is the same poster from the UVA vs NU thread. I bet all my Clorox wipes on it.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

Hmm. You may not realize ND doesn't have the cachet it once had and doesn't have top tier students. I am anti Trump though and so are a good number of ND parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

Hmm. You may not realize ND doesn't have the cachet it once had and doesn't have top tier students. I am anti Trump though and so are a good number of ND parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

Anonymous wrote:An hour away in Ann Arbor, UMich has all the freshmen moving in this weekend, so clearly they're not worried. And it's not for football, since UMich already cancelled football. This campus Corona hysteria is just bored busybodies trying to whip up a non-story. None of these kids are in the hospital, nobody is dying. Give it a rest.

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Anonymous wrote:An hour away in Ann Arbor, UMich has all the freshmen moving in this weekend, so clearly they're not worried. And it's not for football, since UMich already cancelled football. This campus Corona hysteria is just bored busybodies trying to whip up a non-story. None of these kids are in the hospital, nobody is dying. Give it a rest.

Stay tuned.....

I wouldn't say that uMich isn't worried. They have a lot of plans in the air, just as Notre Dame did. It remains to be seen what happens.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/08/in-may-email-um-president-told-unc-officials-he-was-struggling-with-how-to-bring-back-30k-undergrads.html

A majority of UM students will begin moving in Aug. 24, according to UM’s housing website. About 70% of credit hours for undergraduates will be taken remotely, the university said, and everyone on campus will be required to wear masks, both indoors and outdoors.

Before returning to Ann Arbor, UM is asking its students to practice 14 days of “enhanced social distancing,” which many students feel will only work if everyone follows the policy.

University of Michigan students unsure if ‘enhanced social distancing’ requirement will be effective

The university has partnered with the Ann Arbor Police Department to help keep students safe from COVID-19 by enforcing a ban on large gatherings with small canvassing teams. UM has also opened a hotline to reduce the need for police being called as a first response to suspect violations, AAPD said.

Many have questions and concerns about UM’s plan, however. Multiple Ann Arbor City Council members raised concerns when the plan was presented at an Aug. 17 meeting, saying there was a lack of enforcement and prevention of exposure to the virus.

Ann Arbor City Council members question University of Michigan’s effort to prevent spread of coronavirus

UM professors have also said they have “no confidence” in the university’s plan to reopen and claim that it shows a “complete disregard for people’s well being.”

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.

Anonymous wrote:This article from 2014 sets out very well why this pandemic might not be to manipulate the election purposely, but still why the risks are vastly overestimated by many:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2014/03/17/why-were-awful-at-assessing-risk/6530753/

The factors for overestimating risk track nearly perfectly for this pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but ask why so many people are rooting for ND to fail. If they can contain this...if the illness continues to be flu-like for those affected (as data is showing...mild symptoms lasting 3-5 days)...if the staff and faculty (who are at most risk, yet the best at mitigating risk) are thus far holding strong...if this pioneering experiment is helping to teach peer colleges what and what not to do...why are we not hoping and praying this attempt proves eventually successful?

it's a high profile school, and they appeared to have a good plan and the intent to hold all classes in person from the start. It was ambitious!

If they are able after two-four weeks to reopen the campus, I'll say well done. I'm not hoping for them to fail.

You need to move on from the idea that this illness is flu-like and most young adults have mild symptoms. That really isn't the concern. As we keep explaining, the concern in that the illness will spread to the community and hurt those at risk.

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Anonymous wrote:An hour away in Ann Arbor, UMich has all the freshmen moving in this weekend, so clearly they're not worried. And it's not for football, since UMich already cancelled football. This campus Corona hysteria is just bored busybodies trying to whip up a non-story. None of these kids are in the hospital, nobody is dying. Give it a rest.

Stay tuned.....

I wouldn't say that uMich isn't worried. They have a lot of plans in the air, just as Notre Dame did. It remains to be seen what happens.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/08/in-may-email-um-president-told-unc-officials-he-was-struggling-with-how-to-bring-back-30k-undergrads.html

A majority of UM students will begin moving in Aug. 24, according to UM’s housing website. About 70% of credit hours for undergraduates will be taken remotely, the university said, and everyone on campus will be required to wear masks, both indoors and outdoors.

Before returning to Ann Arbor, UM is asking its students to practice 14 days of “enhanced social distancing,” which many students feel will only work if everyone follows the policy.

University of Michigan students unsure if ‘enhanced social distancing’ requirement will be effective

The university has partnered with the Ann Arbor Police Department to help keep students safe from COVID-19 by enforcing a ban on large gatherings with small canvassing teams. UM has also opened a hotline to reduce the need for police being called as a first response to suspect violations, AAPD said.

Many have questions and concerns about UM’s plan, however. Multiple Ann Arbor City Council members raised concerns when the plan was presented at an Aug. 17 meeting, saying there was a lack of enforcement and prevention of exposure to the virus.

Ann Arbor City Council members question University of Michigan’s effort to prevent spread of coronavirus

UM professors have also said they have “no confidence” in the university’s plan to reopen and claim that it shows a “complete disregard for people’s well being.”

Anonymous wrote:An hour away in Ann Arbor, UMich has all the freshmen moving in this weekend, so clearly they're not worried. And it's not for football, since UMich already cancelled football. This campus Corona hysteria is just bored busybodies trying to whip up a non-story. None of these kids are in the hospital, nobody is dying. Give it a rest.

A majority of UM students will begin moving in Aug. 24, according to UM’s housing website. About 70% of credit hours for undergraduates will be taken remotely, the university said, and everyone on campus will be required to wear masks, both indoors and outdoors.

Before returning to Ann Arbor, UM is asking its students to practice 14 days of “enhanced social distancing,” which many students feel will only work if everyone follows the policy.

University of Michigan students unsure if ‘enhanced social distancing’ requirement will be effective

The university has partnered with the Ann Arbor Police Department to help keep students safe from COVID-19 by enforcing a ban on large gatherings with small canvassing teams. UM has also opened a hotline to reduce the need for police being called as a first response to suspect violations, AAPD said.

Many have questions and concerns about UM’s plan, however. Multiple Ann Arbor City Council members raised concerns when the plan was presented at an Aug. 17 meeting, saying there was a lack of enforcement and prevention of exposure to the virus.

Ann Arbor City Council members question University of Michigan’s effort to prevent spread of coronavirus

UM professors have also said they have “no confidence” in the university’s plan to reopen and claim that it shows a “complete disregard for people’s well being.”

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Anti-Catholics and atheists, parents with dim kids at middling diploma mills, and safe bet lots of anti-Trump folks who just want everything to implode leading up to the general election.