Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 14:18     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Press conf just said "within a few days" and along with PG.


Within a few days for what? Phase 1?


Assume so although he spent most of the conference blaming Hogan - for what it was unclear. He’s insufferable.

However, if the governor is having a press conference at 5p and hasn’t signaled to the county executives anything about the content, that’s a problem. The county execs shouldn’t have to watch the conference to find out and then be unable to respond right after.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 13:52     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Press conf just said "within a few days" and along with PG.


Within a few days for what? Phase 1?


Assume so although he spent most of the conference blaming Hogan - for what it was unclear. He’s insufferable.


Ridiculous.

If NoVA goes to Phase 1 on Friday, as expected, and the rest of MD goes to Phase 2 today, and MoCo is still in Phase 0, people are going to go apesht.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 13:22     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Press conf just said "within a few days" and along with PG.


Within a few days for what? Phase 1?


Assume so although he spent most of the conference blaming Hogan - for what it was unclear. He’s insufferable.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 13:21     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:Press conf just said "within a few days" and along with PG.


Within a few days for what? Phase 1?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 13:07     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Are you serious? We're talking about criteria for moving into phase 1 of a 3-phase reopening plan. We can't use acute care utilization being 5 percentage points above normal (which is what it is right now) as a reason to stay closed. We won't get to "normal" pre-pandemic acute care utilization until after this is over.


I don't see any evidence that they're planning to use it, all by itself, as a reason to continue the stay-at-home orders.

They have a group of measures. That's appropriate. This is one of them. That's also appropriate.


Elrich get back to work!!
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 12:52     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Press conf just said "within a few days" and along with PG.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 12:51     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:Nursing home update, since new data came in today:

74% of MoCo’s deaths in the past week were in nursing homes. Specifically, that’s 42 out of the 57 deaths we added.

So for the past 3 weeks, nursing homes have accounted for:

May 5-12: 90% of the increase
May 13-20: 48% of the increase
May 21-26: 74% of the increase


It’s unreasonable for us to restructure society around nursing homes. They and their employees need to restructure their lives. I have no family members in nursing homes and no contact with residents of them yet I’m asked to restructure my life for them. They need to be making the changes, not everyone else. We don’t know for sure (though we certainly hope) a vaccine will be here later this year. Are we really going to keep this up in perpetuity?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 12:28     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Nursing home update, since new data came in today:

74% of MoCo’s deaths in the past week were in nursing homes. Specifically, that’s 42 out of the 57 deaths we added.

So for the past 3 weeks, nursing homes have accounted for:

May 5-12: 90% of the increase
May 13-20: 48% of the increase
May 21-26: 74% of the increase
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 08:17     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


?

PP doesn't know much about Montgomery County politics.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 22:22     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


At the end of the day they will all open At the same time.


Well, NoVA is going to Phase 1 on Friday, so we will see if they really are all coordinating.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 22:20     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


I agree with this so much but I think Elrich should give in and not necessarily resign. He’s on a high horse and enjoying the power. Time to give in! Whoever runs against him next time has a great chance to win.


Mr. Blair, line 1!
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:58     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


I agree with this so much but I think Elrich should give in and not necessarily resign. He’s on a high horse and enjoying the power. Time to give in! Whoever runs against him next time has a great chance to win.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:32     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


At the end of the day they will all open At the same time.

At the end of the day, the close in counties have realized how much revenue they're missing out on, are are deciding to play the "Phased" criteria a little less conservatively.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 21:09     Subject: Re:So is MOCO just never opening?
I hope you are right, but Bowser and Northam have been clear they are going to Phase 1 soon and the only thing we hear from Elrich is whining that Hogan should have waited in until MoCo was ready. Every statement and press release just consists of him whining things aren’t fair. His press secretaryreally needs to be let go.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 20:53     Subject: So is MOCO just never opening?
Anonymous wrote:If MoCo is supposedly coordinating with DC and NOVA, why do they use such different metrics. DC uses 80% capacity in acute care bed utilization, while MoCo uses 70% as the level to beat. If MoCo used the same standard as DC, we would already have surpassed 14 consecutive days of compliance with that standard, but instead we are stuck at 1 day out of the last 14. It seems MoCo Health Dept and Elrich have created a formula intended to make us fail and stay shut in our homes forever until all hope of having jobs and having schools be able to open in the fall are crushed forever. Elrich and the entire MoCo Council that is in his pocket should resign immediately.


At the end of the day they will all open At the same time.