Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:19
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....
The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.
And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.
But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."
Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.
CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem
The complaint was clear that they were not fully versed on Giuliani's activities. But that text message fully implicates Pompeo's State Department in this scandal. I guess Giuliani is taking everyone down with him.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:16
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
I’m a Republican and the list of all of Trump’s misdeeds from lying, misinformation, operating a bogus university, operating a bogus charity, steering govt business to his personal interests, having his kids involved in running the govt, his love and adoration for ruthless and murderous dictators, his obvious complicity with Putin, his racist comments, his hiding of his taxes, and now this. Isn’t all the enough to demonstrate to any human being of normal intelligence that something isn’t right with this guy? And yet they continue to defend his actions as purely innocent and in furtherance of him being the best President ever.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:14
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The summary transcript is going to become the next Nunes Memo. Thoroughly disproven and discredited, and yet Trump supporters will continue to slavishly defend it.
Huh? It’s hugely damning for Trump. Why would they defend it?
Because the full transcript is much more damning.
You will be disappointed. Of that, I am certain.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:14
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We need to know why Ukraine was giving the former Vice President's son $600,000. per year.
What's to hide?
Have another shot. You've lost the plot.
Again, what's to hide?
Why was Hunter Biden taking $600,000. per year from the Ukrainians while his father was Vice President of the United States?
Repeat after me: there are no victims hidden under Comet Ping Pong. None.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:14
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....
The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.
And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.
But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."
Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.
CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem
This “error” assumes that we got the entire contents of the call. It wasn’t a transcript. And if you speak all of the words in what we got, it takes 11 minutes. The call was reported to be more than twice as long is that. Senator Feinstein has already demanded the entire call, so I guess we’ll see.
I think you will be sorely disappointed when the call matches the transcript. Which is sad.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:13
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The summary transcript is going to become the next Nunes Memo. Thoroughly disproven and discredited, and yet Trump supporters will continue to slavishly defend it.
Huh? It’s hugely damning for Trump. Why would they defend it?
Because the full transcript is much more damning.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:12
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We need to know why Ukraine was giving the former Vice President's son $600,000. per year.
What's to hide?
Have another shot. You've lost the plot.
Again, what's to hide?
Why was Hunter Biden taking $600,000. per year from the Ukrainians while his father was Vice President of the United States?
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:11
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....
The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.
And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.
But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."
Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.
CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem
All this proves is that Rudy reached out to Volker sooner than the Whistleblower knew. Or that Pompeo or the White House told Volker to meet with Rudy and set up meetings sooner than the Whistleblower knew. It doesn’t refute the actions that the Whistleblower reported, it just solidified that the State Department was in on the collusion after the Trump camp & their Ukrainian collider smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch to get her out of the way.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:08
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:
We need to know why Ukraine was giving the former Vice President's son $600,000. per year.
What's to hide?
Have another shot. You've lost the plot.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 20:07
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
We need to know why Ukraine was giving the former Vice President's son $600,000. per year.
What's to hide?
Anonymous
09/26/2019 19:53
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The summary transcript is going to become the next Nunes Memo. Thoroughly disproven and discredited, and yet Trump supporters will continue to slavishly defend it.
Huh? It’s hugely damning for Trump. Why would they defend it?
I should have quoted the post that prompted mine, it's the one not to far above the essentially claims the whistleblower complaint isn't credible because it's not consistent with the summary transcript. I think when it/if it all comes out, more likely than not we find out the most damning stuff was excluded from the summary and it's ultimately a complete misrepresentation of the call. Moreover, I think Trump probably was so eager to release it because he believed what they did include was harmless and would discredit the whistleblower, not appreciating that there were other ways for the truth to come out.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 19:49
Subject: Whistleblower complaint released
A pundit recently made a good point. He said that during Watergate the tide began to turn against Nixon when Americans, and in particular Republicans, heard the Nixon tapes for themselves. They believed what they heard. They didn’t think the tapes were “fake news.”
But in this era where facts have been politicized to a point where many people don’t necessarily believe what they see or hear with their own eyes and ears, they will not so easily be convinced. When people can’t even agree on facts, there’s not much of a basis for discussion.
But in this era where facts have been politicized to a point where many people don’t necessarily believe what they see or hear with their own eyes and ears, they will not so easily be convinced. When people can’t even agree on facts, there’s not much of a basis for discussion.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 19:46
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:The summary transcript is going to become the next Nunes Memo. Thoroughly disproven and discredited, and yet Trump supporters will continue to slavishly defend it.
Huh? It’s hugely damning for Trump. Why would they defend it?
Anonymous
09/26/2019 19:39
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
The summary transcript is going to become the next Nunes Memo. Thoroughly disproven and discredited, and yet Trump supporters will continue to slavishly defend it.
Anonymous
09/26/2019 19:37
Subject: Re:Whistleblower complaint released
Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....
The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.
And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.
But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."
Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.
CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem
Did you see Hannity last night? Did you see his knuckles?