Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 18:31     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack. Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".


Hahahaha! PP is such a dumbass!
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 16:27     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack. Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.


I think your brain has bigger issues than controlling "attraction traits".
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 15:40     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.


Not PP, but attractive figures (to both men and women) are tied to evolutionary biology. Tall, powerful men are best able to bring home the bison meat and protect women and their offspring from pterodactyl attack. Women with figures that suggest fertility are most attractive to men.

Remember attraction is not a choice. These attraction traits are locked in a part of our brain we can't control.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 15:15     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:Keep coddling your sons, ladies.

Bingo! Lazy, entitled boys become lazy, entitled men. Mothers need to grab this bull by the horns and stop this.


Stop what, precisely? This thread has women singing the praises of men who make $500K or $700K a year. Not everyone can end up doing that. Not everyone has the right personality to end up making money like that.

I think most women would be fine with less than $500K. They are looking for someone who can at the least be an equal partner. I don't know any successful women looking for a man who makes $500K+ only. They are looking for men who make about the same as them, which is usually around the $100K - $150K mark. My DH and I make about the same, about $160K.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 15:13     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.

maybe some women don't want short men because they don't want short children, sort of biological thing. Isn't that why men say they are attracted to women who are not too fat or too skinny.. something about biology and fertility.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 15:03     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep coddling your sons, ladies.

Bingo! Lazy, entitled boys become lazy, entitled men. Mothers need to grab this bull by the horns and stop this.


Stop what, precisely? This thread has women singing the praises of men who make $500K or $700K a year. Not everyone can end up doing that. Not everyone has the right personality to end up making money like that.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:51     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:Short men are just not attractive.

You'd have to be hellllllla rich to make up for it.

Even then. No.


Tell that to all of Tom Cruise's female fans!


Yep, I saw Sylvester Stallone in the street years ago and laughed out loud. He's a midget.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:50     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


I think you are correct. Height is the most over rated quality in a man. I agree that women weed out tons of outstanding (and wealthy and successful) men based on height alone, which is a crying shame. Not to say appearance don’t matter, but you can still be handsome, masculine, and well put together while being short.


How short though?


Somewhere on the bell curve. For me, 5’6”-5’8” would be on the far left side with 6’-6’2” on the far right.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:19     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


I think you are correct. Height is the most over rated quality in a man. I agree that women weed out tons of outstanding (and wealthy and successful) men based on height alone, which is a crying shame. Not to say appearance don’t matter, but you can still be handsome, masculine, and well put together while being short.


How short though?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:17     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


I think you are correct. Height is the most over rated quality in a man. I agree that women weed out tons of outstanding (and wealthy and successful) men based on height alone, which is a crying shame. Not to say appearance don’t matter, but you can still be handsome, masculine, and well put together while being short.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:04     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:I married someone outside of my “comfort zone” because I simply wasn’t having any success with my initial criteria. I ended up with someone from a different region (NE vs south) and a different religion. Ideally I would have found someone my religion in my hometown (a mid sized city.)

It has worked out but has required much compromise. But what in life doesn’t?


I think there is compromise always, but when one person carries the other financially it can be a burden. I have been in relationships where my goals financially and career wise are light years ahead and eventually those relationships fell apart because I wasn't meeting my goals because I was carrying them.

Compromising on religion or politics, I could live with.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 14:00     Subject: Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

I married someone outside of my “comfort zone” because I simply wasn’t having any success with my initial criteria. I ended up with someone from a different region (NE vs south) and a different religion. Ideally I would have found someone my religion in my hometown (a mid sized city.)

It has worked out but has required much compromise. But what in life doesn’t?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:55     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".


Even if a man thought, "potential with boob job" as someone with small boobs, that would never happen. Either you like me or your don't... Weight is a health issue and I can even see why people could have an issue outside of how unattractive people see it as.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:53     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.


Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.


Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

Even if they could lose the weight, some men wouldn't want to date an over weight woman. They are not going to see her and think, "Oh, she's nice, and she can lose the weight so I will date her". Similar for flat chested women. Yes, they can get boob jobs, but men who like big chested women are not going to look at a flat chested woman and think, "potential with boob job".
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:49     Subject: Re:Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

I would love to find an economically attractive man, but it definitely is hard to do. As a woman, with a masters degree and working on an MBA, I just want someone with the same drive and the ability to take care of themselves and not be burden to my wallet.