Anonymous
Post 04/13/2019 00:26     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Hey Jack hat PP!

Have you read any of the other threads on this?

Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS!

How many times do I have to type this before it registers in your pea brain?

Better tune into something aside from Tucker.

COMPREHENSIVE IMMAGRATION REFORM!

Turtle neck McConnell and "Lindsey" Graham are fing the country up for everyone along with your dear leader who seems to be missing a brain.

#BeBest

I pray we all survive this so called "presidency."

Anonymous
Post 04/13/2019 00:23     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I agree with Trump sticking it to the libs. It shows thei hypocrisy of the sanctuary city and resist policies.


OK - thank you for finally answering.



Dp. He is putting their money where their mouth is. I honestly do not understand this backlash.


Same. And I think most Trump supporters would agree.



Just to recap. Trump supporters fully this this because it’s “sticking it to the libs”.




I'm curious: why don't YOU support this? After all, you love the idea of bringing immigrants into this country, right? So what's the problem?


You are twisting words around and intentionally being obtuse about it. You are trying to bait this question that if someone supports immigrants, they should take in all of them completely uncontrolled which has been no ones position other than for you to try to win an argument. You aren’t being serious in having an intellectual conversation about it.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:49     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I agree with Trump sticking it to the libs. It shows thei hypocrisy of the sanctuary city and resist policies.


OK - thank you for finally answering.



Dp. He is putting their money where their mouth is. I honestly do not understand this backlash.


Same. And I think most Trump supporters would agree.



Just to recap. Trump supporters fully this this because it’s “sticking it to the libs”.




I'm curious: why don't YOU support this? After all, you love the idea of bringing immigrants into this country, right? So what's the problem?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:47     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:You can't have a policy discussion around a proposal that is fundamentally unserious and treasonous (or do you have another word for parts of the.Executive branch intentionally choosing to go against the judicial and legislative branches). Stop the dumb ass both sides games. I will not hold the Democrats to a higher standard than the Republicans. Trump had full power for two years and couldn't get his own head out of his ass. There's been a bipartisan compromise plan with majority support languishing in Congress ready to go for years. Trump does not care and does not want to solve the problem. He simply wants to be an asshole.


Yep but he’s our asshole.



He’s not my asshole.


Sure he is. How would you spend your days without having Trump to obsess over?
-DP
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:45     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t sound like Stephen Miller was looking out for their well-being.

““It was basically an idea that Miller wanted that nobody else wanted to carry out,” said one congressional investigator who has spoken to one of the whistleblowers. “What happened here is that Stephen Miller called people at ICE, said if they’re going to cut funding, you’ve got to make sure you’re releasing people in Pelosi’s district and other congressional districts.” The investigator spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect the whistleblower.”

“It was during that mid-February standoff that one whistleblower went to Congress alleging that the White House was considering a plan to punish Democrats if they did not relent on ICE funding for beds. A second official independently came forward after that.

According to both, there were at least two versions of the plan being considered. One was to move migrants who were already in ICE detention to the districts of Democratic opponents. The second option was to bus migrants apprehended at the border to sanctuary cities, such as New York, Chicago and San Francisco.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html



These plans were not meant to help immigrants...they were meant to PUNISH US citizens.


You all keep using words like "punish." Its not a punishment if you want them to come. He knows you want them to come. The cities/state's own laws have declared that these people are a delight. Your assertion that this is a punishment is off when they've stated explicitly that these people are a joy.


Precisely. Funny that only now, when there's a real chance these immigrants could be living en masse in these cities, do liberals think it would be "punishment". So many examples of liberal hypocrisy, and this is one of the best. Nice work, liberals!




Hey morons. TRUMP THINKS IT IS A PUNISHMENT. That is the issue.



Yes, you have repeated this ad nauseum. But why would you care what Trump thinks? You hate the man. Instead, you should be rising to the occasion to prove to everyone how selfless and giving you are. Right?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:44     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:And CIS is listed as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

Great source, MAGA.


Wait - you mean you're still taking the SPLC seriously?! Oh, the irony!
https://www.newyorkercom/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center



You think CIS is an unbiased source?


I absolutely think it's as "unbiased" as SPLC. They deserve one another.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:43     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t sound like Stephen Miller was looking out for their well-being.

““It was basically an idea that Miller wanted that nobody else wanted to carry out,” said one congressional investigator who has spoken to one of the whistleblowers. “What happened here is that Stephen Miller called people at ICE, said if they’re going to cut funding, you’ve got to make sure you’re releasing people in Pelosi’s district and other congressional districts.” The investigator spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect the whistleblower.”

“It was during that mid-February standoff that one whistleblower went to Congress alleging that the White House was considering a plan to punish Democrats if they did not relent on ICE funding for beds. A second official independently came forward after that.

According to both, there were at least two versions of the plan being considered. One was to move migrants who were already in ICE detention to the districts of Democratic opponents. The second option was to bus migrants apprehended at the border to sanctuary cities, such as New York, Chicago and San Francisco.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html



These plans were not meant to help immigrants...they were meant to PUNISH US citizens.


How? Liberals are constantly braying that immigrants, both illegal and legal, are a fine addition to this country, remember? So how would bringing these illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities - where presumably, they are welcome - be a punishment of any kind? You make no sense. But one thing is clear; you actually *don't* think these immigrants are a welcome addition, even though that runs completely contrary to everything you've been saying. Which makes you... a huge hypocrite.


I’ve already posted that I might be fine with it. Would need to hear more details but the premise is fine with me

And TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Did you even read the fracking article?


So why don't you prove him wrong by rolling out the welcome wagon? Show the country just how NON-punitive this action would be. Embrace it! Why aren't you seizing this opportunity to show everyone that you actually mean it when you claim these people are welcome here?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:42     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.


+1,000
Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.


TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?


Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:41     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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2h
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump
....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

+1





And he's a big f$cking liar. Funny that you believe him. Again and again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democrats-open-borders.html

"President Trump has falsely claimed at least two dozen times since taking office that Democrats want to open American borders. But legislation shows that Democrats support border security measures, though not the border wall he wants to build."



Once again.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:41     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Why does it not matter to conservatives that their Dear Leader is a spiteful a**hole and vindictiveness drives all his policies?


Because they hate us more than anything in this world. They don't care about policy, they only care about hurting "the libs" and people that live in blue states.


Liberals say immigrants improve their community, add to the community wealth, etc. How then would sending immigrants to liberal communities hurt liberals?


I for one would have no problem with an orderly transport of immigrants to my city. I do however have a major problem with my President acting as if placing immigrants around the country is a way of punishing liberals and acting like he would be unleashing a torrent of criminals on our cities. That is an effed up mindframe. My ire has nothing to do with fearing the possibility of immigrants in my city, it has to do with fearing a President that takes actions HE BELIEVES are punitive towards his political opposition.


+1

It'd be one thing if he were proposing this because it was a good solution for the immigrants. But he only would want to do this to be vindictive to those who disagree with him. And he's using human beings as pawns in his twisted game.

He doesn't GAF about the immigrants. And he certainly DGAF about many US citizens - in fact, his intention is to harm them. The POTUS intends to harm US citizens. If you don't think that is f$cked up then I don't know what else to say.


Um, how does the POTUS intend to harm US citizens? Please do elaborate. This should be good.


Trump considers undocumented people to be violent criminals. He wanted to punish Dems and one idea he had with Stephan Miller was to bus immigrants (who he believes are dangerous) to the various sanctuary cities. Miller and Trump consider this a punishment. To put US citizens in what they think is harm’s way.



But, as liberals constantly repeat, these immigrants *aren't* dangerous. Right? So how would it be a punishment to bring them to sanctuary cities?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:39     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Send them to the richest places in the US. See how quick the "progressive" phonies turn into immigration hardliners. Build asylum apartment complexes in:

Brentwood Los Angeles, CA
Scarsdale Westchester County, NY
Lake Forest Lake County, IL
Atherton San Mateo County, CA
Chevy Chase MoGo, MD
East Hampton Suffolk County, NY
Cape Cod Barnstable County, MA


Excellent suggestion. Can you imagine how fast those residents would shoot down that proposal? Major NIMBY hypocrites.

Yeah, that's 3 supreme Court justices too!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:37     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is an excellent example of what idiots Trump-supporters are. They don't understand what sanctuary cities are. They don't get that using human beings as pawns in political games is wrong. They spew fallacies about what "Democrats want" on immigration based on right-wing propaganda.

Pathetic and deplorable.


I'm not a Trump supporter, but b/c of your attitude (as you reflect the norm), I happily escaped the Ds.

At the root of this issue are two topics: NIMBYism and hypocrisy, which are intertwined.

Sanctuary cities are MUCH MORE receptive with regard to illegal immigration. There are NO guarantees regarding security; that's understood. However, the liberalism in those areas is widespread and thus, accepting.

I can personally speak to Montgomery County, having lived there for a large chunk of my life.

It's a win-win with Nancy Navarro on the County Council and CASA in Wheaton, right? a match made in heaven!

But then something suddenly changed. Trump hastily made another statement about sanctuary cities absorbing illegal immigrants. ICE cleared up the issue, shouting about budgetary constraints and dangers to the immigrants, not to mention the legalities around transporting them.

fine - not the first time Trump put his food in his mouth, right?

But what was amazing were the responses from liberals. Regardless of obstacles facing ICE over this issue, liberals were the first ones to jump on Trump for making this suggestion. Where was the COMPASSION for them? Why didn't any of you jump in and offer solutions? Instead, you attacked Trump for making this suggestion. You didn't worry about those who struggled for weeks to WALK their way to the border.

attack
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But you offered no solutions.

They WILL end up in sanctuary cities. I hope you all know that. So maybe then you'll show some compassion b/c NIMBYism and hypocrisy are ugly, especially for die-hard liberals.


This is not about NIMBYism. This is about you don't just take human beings and randomly dump them in some city. Are there support systems in place for these people? Where will they stay?

Trump did put his foot in his mouth. So did you. You just proved my point.

Yes, we need solutions. Are the GOP prepared to put aside their fight for a stupid wall and talk about common sense solutions?


Are you kidding? That is exactly what is happening now.

We're in MCPS and we see these families coming to the school system in droves. Of course there are support systems in place. That's why they come here!

They stay in SFHs, where they live 4 families to one home. We've been seeing this in our middle class neighborhood for the past 5 years. They get healthcare from the state, a free education for the kids and help from CASA.

Why would that be any different because Trump wants to do it?

And, how is this proposal any different from what the Democrats want - Open Borders?


I haven’t read any Democrats support open borders. Can you please share a link that isn’t a tweet from supreme leader?


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/democrats-and-open-borders-the-budget-is-the-policy/
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:31     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:Oh boy, nazis are running America. Remember when things were normal under Obama?


Seriously. I am so worried what he will allow at borders? Gun violence? He is heading toward anarchy of his OWN choosing.


Seriously?? Are you for real?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:24     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:Send them to the richest places in the US. See how quick the "progressive" phonies turn into immigration hardliners. Build asylum apartment complexes in:

Brentwood Los Angeles, CA
Scarsdale Westchester County, NY
Lake Forest Lake County, IL
Atherton San Mateo County, CA
Chevy Chase MoGo, MD
East Hampton Suffolk County, NY
Cape Cod Barnstable County, MA


Excellent suggestion. Can you imagine how fast those residents would shoot down that proposal? Major NIMBY hypocrites.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2019 23:21     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:according to the libs... which have provided zero solutions to immigration which everyone agrees our laws need to be reformed. Sending them back is not humane, detaining them is not humane, making them wait in Mexico is not humane. What is it? Apparently we should just keep turning a blind eye to this and do nothing.

Makes no sense. What is wrong with sending them to sanctuary cities? Isn't that the whole point? Keep saying you welcome them then take the influx. Why are you upset by this?

There is no solution that works for you. Typical hypocrites. You are going to hand this election to Trump and blame nobody but yourselves.


We have a winner, folks. This is exactly right. No suggestions re: immigration will be deemed acceptable unless it's a liberal who does the suggesting. Ridiculous people. Honestly, I wish the election was tomorrow.