Anonymous wrote:Little Girls in Pretty Boxes was a book on elite gymnastics culture that came out in the late 90s...I remember reading it. In some ways it was a warning about what could happen. Gymnastics culture, particularly after the Karolyis became so powerful, we always messed up, even compared to other youth sports at the elite level.

They never should have been allowed to coach in the US or become this powerful. It’s sick.

http://triplefull.blogspot.com/2008/11/karolyi-scandal-quotes-by-adrian-goreac.html?m=1

Anonymous wrote:I'm interested to hear from other top gymnasts and their gymnastics programs. Like Chow- wasn't he known for being much more supportive and empathetic than other gyms? Didn't Shawn Johnson have a more normal upbringing than most? And did they avoid this abuse somehow?

Yeah I’ve been wondering if some of the other top gymnasts haven’t come forward because they don’t want to for whatever reason or if they actually weren’t abused. I’m not sure if anyone from Chow’s gym or WOGA has come forward? Abusers sometimes prey on the most vulnerable, and you could see him targeting gymnasts like Mattie Larson, McKayla Maroney, and Jordyn Weiber for instance in part because they had really mean coaches (and part of his schtick was playing the “good” guy). But then I always got the impression that Simone Biles had a really stable coaching situation and family, so who knows.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US Olympic Committee, MSU and USA Gymnastics were all complicit in the horrific assault of so many children. Thank goodness the entire USA board has resigned. Next step is completion of the criminal investigation. That may take some time. More people will get charged for their crimes.

I sure hope so. As a Michigan native, the role MSU played in this really angers me. So many chances to stop him- it’s not surprising to me that college-aged women were more likely to recognize his actions as abuse (vs. the younger girls) but their complaints were repeatedly ignored. A sham investigation in 2014 cleared him of wrongdoing. WTF!

I watched a few of the statements, but this one in particular brought me to tears- I really hope meaningful change happens. No one should have to go through this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kMibEuDSIbo

Horrific

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Anonymous wrote:Told you he wasn’t a doctor. DOs aren’t doctors.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-larry-nassar-20180126-story.html

How is our US Olympic Committee calling them doctors?

This is unbelievable!

Anonymous wrote:Told you he wasn’t a doctor. DOs aren’t doctors.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-larry-nassar-20180126-story.html

The article articulates the frequently said mantra of "trust your gut", but children are typically taught that they must produce unrefutable evidence before they'll be believed. How often has mom said, "I don't feel right" about a daycare or sitter, and dad replies "well, they seem fine to me"? Yes, women are usually more intuitive than men.

How often do we see on other threads, "something just doesn't seem right about this", and posters bombard the op asking for hardcore evidence before you report to the authorities? It's not our job to conduct the investigation. That's what the authorities do. Our job is to always report suspicions. If the authorities can't find an issue, fine. We can use different avenues of reporting if it seems necessary.

Let's all make sure our children understand this.
They need to hear this loud and clear on a REGULAR basis.
They need to know how to help a friend in trouble.
"Keep your mouth shut" or "mind your own business"
is the WRONG message.

Anonymous wrote:Told you he wasn’t a doctor. DOs aren’t doctors.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-larry-nassar-20180126-story.html

How is our US Olympic Committee calling them doctors?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox Sports has not reported on this story even once.

Two years ago they finalized a 15-year agreement reportedly worth more than $150-million with Michigan State for the school’s multimedia rights.

https://deadspin.com/fox-sports-has-completely-ignored-the-larry-nassar-sex-1822415652

WOW

Thanks for posting.

Whoa.

I know. Controversial but it’s easy for MDs to feast on. These are the rejects from MD programs. Painful but true.

I'm interested to hear from other top gymnasts and their gymnastics programs. Like Chow- wasn't he known for being much more supportive and empathetic than other gyms? Didn't Shawn Johnson have a more normal upbringing than most? And did they avoid this abuse somehow?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox Sports has not reported on this story even once.

Two years ago they finalized a 15-year agreement reportedly worth more than $150-million with Michigan State for the school’s multimedia rights.

https://deadspin.com/fox-sports-has-completely-ignored-the-larry-nassar-sex-1822415652

WOW

Thanks for posting.

Whoa.

Told you he wasn’t a doctor. DOs aren’t doctors.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-larry-nassar-20180126-story.html

Anonymous wrote:Little Girls in Pretty Boxes was a book on elite gymnastics culture that came out in the late 90s...I remember reading it. In some ways it was a warning about what could happen. Gymnastics culture, particularly after the Karolyis became so powerful, we always messed up, even compared to other youth sports at the elite level.

"Little Girls in Pretty Boxes"
Do parents and kids read this important book?

Anonymous wrote:Fox Sports has not reported on this story even once.

Two years ago they finalized a 15-year agreement reportedly worth more than $150-million with Michigan State for the school’s multimedia rights.

https://deadspin.com/fox-sports-has-completely-ignored-the-larry-nassar-sex-1822415652

WOW

Thanks for posting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Little Girls in Pretty Boxes was a book on elite gymnastics culture that came out in the late 90s...I remember reading it. In some ways it was a warning about what could happen. Gymnastics culture, particularly after the Karolyis became so powerful, we always messed up, even compared to other youth sports at the elite level.

Joan Ryan wrote that book. Here’s her take from last week on the Larry Nassar developments:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/larry-nassar-just-beginning-gymnastics-culture-has-been-abusive-decades-ncna840001

Her book includes the elite figure skating industry.
WTF!?!

Fox Sports has not reported on this story even once.

Two years ago they finalized a 15-year agreement reportedly worth more than $150-million with Michigan State for the school’s multimedia rights.

https://deadspin.com/fox-sports-has-completely-ignored-the-larry-nassar-sex-1822415652

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US Olympic Committee, MSU and USA Gymnastics were all complicit in the horrific assault of so many children. Thank goodness the entire USA board has resigned. Next step is completion of the criminal investigation. That may take some time. More people will get charged for their crimes.

I sure hope so. As a Michigan native, the role MSU played in this really angers me. So many chances to stop him- it’s not surprising to me that college-aged women were more likely to recognize his actions as abuse (vs. the younger girls) but their complaints were repeatedly ignored. A sham investigation in 2014 cleared him of wrongdoing. WTF!

I watched a few of the statements, but this one in particular brought me to tears- I really hope meaningful change happens. No one should have to go through this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kMibEuDSIbo

Holy $hit. I had not seen her testimony.

Holy Shit is exactly right! This is astounding.