Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 17:45     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:

I think this gives another perspective for verbal than the WISC. You have nothing to lose by appealing. If your child gets in, you can still decide to wait a year to transfer to level IV. If your DC doesn't get in, you can request a CogAT retake next year. You have the opportunity to wrap up the process in a month instead of going through a retake and the committee process all over again next year. I'd submit the appeal so you don't second guess if you should have. Again, You lose nothing be appealing.


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Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 17:25     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP, but my kid had practically identical NNAT and CogAt, and GBRS scores. I posted upthread and several posters encouraged me to appeal (was not planning to until this thread convinced me otherwise and am still on the fence a little bit). We just did a WISC test and the FSIQ was 126. The psychologist also suspects DC might have some other issues which are not major, but she is recommending we follow up with the school. I don't know if it's better to wait and retake the CogAt next year after that has been addressed or just appeal this year and hope for the best?!


There's no reason not to do both. It's a clean slate next year. Why not appeal now (you already did the WISC) and if in the fall you want to DC can retake the CogAt and try again.


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Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 17:23     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found out the WISC and GBRS score today

NNAT 126 - 95%
CoGAT 128 - 95%
WISC V 126 - 96%
Verbal 108 - 70%
Visual Spatial 122 - 93%
Fluid Reasoning 134 - 99%
GBRS 11

Appeal or not appeal?


You already paid for the WISC, why not appeal? What was the verbal on the CogAT?


CoGAT verbal age score was 126 - 95%


I think this gives another perspective for verbal than the WISC. You have nothing to lose by appealing. If your child gets in, you can still decide to wait a year to transfer to level IV. If your DC doesn't get in, you can request a CogAT retake next year. You have the opportunity to wrap up the process in a month instead of going through a retake and the committee process all over again next year. I'd submit the appeal so you don't second guess if you should have. Again, You lose nothing be appealing.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 16:04     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:Is the DRA in the file? Just curious.


Yes
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 15:46     Subject: 2017 AAP Admission Thread
Is the DRA in the file? Just curious.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 15:35     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:Why do you all want to push your kids into AAP if their scores don't make the cut? My kid made it in but we aren't sure we will even put him in the AAP class. We are at an AAP center school.


For many of us it is just finding the right placement. Scores don't tell the whole story of a child and where their needs are best met.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 15:35     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:Why do you all want to push your kids into AAP if their scores don't make the cut? My kid made it in but we aren't sure we will even put him in the AAP class. We are at an AAP center school.


I thought the same way, and didn't push it with my first child (just a point below the cutoff). Didn't think we'd send 2nd child when he got in (high scores)... but changed our mind after going to the orientation. After seeing what 2nd child got in AAP... it was a big mistake not to parent refer 1st child. By the time we realized how much better the AAP program was, it was too late to change course for 1st child. Can't go back in time, but if we could, we would definitely parent refer 1st child.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 15:32     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:DP, but my kid had practically identical NNAT and CogAt, and GBRS scores. I posted upthread and several posters encouraged me to appeal (was not planning to until this thread convinced me otherwise and am still on the fence a little bit). We just did a WISC test and the FSIQ was 126. The psychologist also suspects DC might have some other issues which are not major, but she is recommending we follow up with the school. I don't know if it's better to wait and retake the CogAt next year after that has been addressed or just appeal this year and hope for the best?!


There's no reason not to do both. It's a clean slate next year. Why not appeal now (you already did the WISC) and if in the fall you want to DC can retake the CogAt and try again.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:57     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Why do you all want to push your kids into AAP if their scores don't make the cut? My kid made it in but we aren't sure we will even put him in the AAP class. We are at an AAP center school.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:51     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP, but my kid had practically identical NNAT and CogAt, and GBRS scores. I posted upthread and several posters encouraged me to appeal (was not planning to until this thread convinced me otherwise and am still on the fence a little bit). We just did a WISC test and the FSIQ was 126. The psychologist also suspects DC might have some other issues which are not major, but she is recommending we follow up with the school. I don't know if it's better to wait and retake the CogAt next year after that has been addressed or just appeal this year and hope for the best?!


Was it Dahlgren?


PP here. No.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:14     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I found out the WISC and GBRS score today

NNAT 126 - 95%
CoGAT 128 - 95%
WISC V 126 - 96%
Verbal 108 - 70%
Visual Spatial 122 - 93%
Fluid Reasoning 134 - 99%
GBRS 11

Appeal or not appeal?


You already paid for the WISC, why not appeal? What was the verbal on the CogAT?


CoGAT verbal age score was 126 - 95%
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:10     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:DP, but my kid had practically identical NNAT and CogAt, and GBRS scores. I posted upthread and several posters encouraged me to appeal (was not planning to until this thread convinced me otherwise and am still on the fence a little bit). We just did a WISC test and the FSIQ was 126. The psychologist also suspects DC might have some other issues which are not major, but she is recommending we follow up with the school. I don't know if it's better to wait and retake the CogAt next year after that has been addressed or just appeal this year and hope for the best?!


Was it Dahlgren?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:09     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:To PP. I would appeal. What's the harm??? My DC got in last year with somewhat similar NNAT/COGAT (129/124) in the first round - did not submit WISC but our work samples and parent referral gave lots of examples of why AAP would be a good fit.


Can you tell me what type of work samples you provided? We submitted her essay, drawings, and some math problem solving which I thought was sufficient, but apparently it was not sufficient for her to be eligible.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:07     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Or you could do nothing and just give your child time to mature a little. My DC was in the same boat and did not get in until 4th grade. Same borderline NNAT/Cogat scores with no Wisc ever added to the picture. The only difference from third to fourth grade. A jump in GBRS from 9 to 15. Give your chid time to grow and mature in the classroom. It's not a race, it's about finding the right fit at the right time.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2017 14:06     Subject: Re:2017 AAP Admission Thread
Anonymous wrote:DP, but my kid had practically identical NNAT and CogAt, and GBRS scores. I posted upthread and several posters encouraged me to appeal (was not planning to until this thread convinced me otherwise and am still on the fence a little bit). We just did a WISC test and the FSIQ was 126. The psychologist also suspects DC might have some other issues which are not major, but she is recommending we follow up with the school. I don't know if it's better to wait and retake the CogAt next year after that has been addressed or just appeal this year and hope for the best?!


This is also exactly why I was on the fence. Other than my DC's fluid reasoning, her score was in the 95% range which seems to not meet the cut off for this year eligibility.