Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know the family of the younger boy personally and I can tell you, he is an absolutely wonderful kid...a wonderful kid who did something incredibly stupid. He comes from a great family where both parents are extremely involved as both parents and in the community. In no way do I excuse any of it, but the girls put these pictures out knowingly and willingly. For anyone to say that it is just the act of these one or two boys is simply not true. It was the act of many, on both sides. Q

And, immediate pp, here is the one attempting to deflect from the criminal actions of this "wonderful kid." And insisting whatever errors in judgment made here were equivalent.

Either we have a "wonderful" boy and many "wonderful" girls who had an error in judgement.

Or

We have a bunch if criminals, boys and girls, that need to be dealt with by law enforcement (and hopefully psychologists).

Anonymous wrote:We know the family of the younger boy personally and I can tell you, he is an absolutely wonderful kid...a wonderful kid who did something incredibly stupid. He comes from a great family where both parents are extremely involved as both parents and in the community. In no way do I excuse any of it, but the girls put these pictures out knowingly and willingly. For anyone to say that it is just the act of these one or two boys is simply not true. It was the act of many, on both sides.

Is this the post where you bash the "wonderful kid" poster as seeking protection for the wrongdoer? Or was there something else?

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

Yes. I believe taking these pictures and sending them to my minor child is offensive! I am sick of these girls sending their slutty pictures to my child. I have not yet contacted the policies about this criminal activity because I do not want to ruin a young life. But... These types of situation make me think I need to have these girls prosecuted so other girls get the message that it is NOT okay to send naked pictures.

Mothers of girls... Can you please stop your desperate pathetic daughters from sending their naked pictures to their friends.

Actually maybe if we create a web page and they know they will be viewed by everyone they know, including their parents, for years to come they might actually stop.

Anonymous wrote:We know the family of the younger boy personally and I can tell you, he is an absolutely wonderful kid...a wonderful kid who did something incredibly stupid. He comes from a great family where both parents are extremely involved as both parents and in the community. In no way do I excuse any of it, but the girls put these pictures out knowingly and willingly. For anyone to say that it is just the act of these one or two boys is simply not true. It was the act of many, on both sides. Q

And, immediate pp, here is the one attempting to deflect from the criminal actions of this "wonderful kid." And insisting whatever errors in judgment made here were equivalent.

There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read a single post that excused the boys' behavior. But many many posts make this accusation.

The second post in the thread, which was very concerned that the criminal perpetrators here not be named. Later, someone describes one of the boys as being a nice boy from a good family who needed to be sheltered from prosecution.

I haven't read a single post that excused the boys' behavior. But many many posts make this accusation.

I never would have posted to this thread except for reading the posts that were leaping to the defense of the two young people cited in the newspaper article and appearing to attempt to absolve them of responsibility while blaming their actions on the kids whose pictures were found on the website being investigated. It just seemed so absurd, and the supporters of the young people whose names were listed on the search warrant appeared unable to understand the possible differences in culpability involved.

These posts seemed to declare over and over that if there is any responsibility at all ascribed to the kids in the pictures, then that was somehow equal to the responsibility of those who collected photos, set up a website, organized and labeled photos on the site, and sent out emails with links so that others could also view the pictures. At least one post indicated that it was possible that the kids in the pictures were actually behind the set up of the site (really, if anyone has that sort of information, they would do better to take it to the police and not post it on an anonymous web site).

I don't live near this school nor any of the surrounding schools and I only know what was written in the Post, so I have no dog in this fight. I just find it disturbing that so many adults(?) are unable to see a difference between a child taking pictures of oneself and someone else collecting so many of these pictures, possibly 50 or more, and going through each step necessary to distribute these pictures to others. If kids were taking pictures of themselves, they may be lacking in respect for themselves, but those who collected such pictures showed lack of respect for others.

They're kids, so we can hope they will all see what they did wrong and learn from the experience, but those who are excusing the kids who created the website because of the possibility that other kids took pictures of themselves are not doing any favors for the kids involved. Only those involved know what actually happened and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I'm not surprised that kids would make mistakes, especially with the rapid evolution and constant change in the uses of social media, but I am surprised that adults would so quickly try to excuse one set of children and refer to another set of children in such denigrating ways. This thread would have died away quickly had people refrained from blaming others and using demeaning terminology to refer to the kids who may appear in the pictures on the site.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for someone on this thread to explain how this was all the childrens' fault:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/justice/new-york-child-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

We all agree that possession of child porn is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

So we all agree that child porn on a girls phone is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

We may not agree on what constitutes "porn," or what it means to "prosecute" when the conduct involves minors rather than adults (as with the CNN episode). Most would agree that child porn laws were written to protect against the sexual exploitation of children by adults.

Someone noted the arrest last year of an adult student at Marshall HS on child porn charges, and another poster said the charges were eventually dropped. So issues can also arise as to whether a prosecutor can obtain and present sufficient evidence to secure a conviction, even when the initial evidence may appear damning to the public.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for someone on this thread to explain how this was all the childrens' fault:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/justice/new-york-child-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

We all agree that possession of child porn is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

So we all agree that child porn on a girls phone is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

No, to hear some of these thread participants talk, the men in this story did nothing wrong, and all the blame should be focused on those children who allowed themselves to be photographed, including the sexually abused infant.

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for someone on this thread to explain how this was all the childrens' fault:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/justice/new-york-child-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

We all agree that possession of child porn is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

So we all agree that child porn on a girls phone is wrong, illegal and should be prosecuted.

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for someone on this thread to explain how this was all the childrens' fault:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/justice/new-york-child-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

It's only the fault of the child if the child is a boy.

I'm waiting for someone on this thread to explain how this was all the childrens' fault:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/justice/new-york-child-porn-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of straw men getting beaten up around here.

Saying that girls who took naked pics of themselves and sent them to others are culpable DOES NOT mean that the boys who collected the pics and posted them are blameless.

Saying (with a wink, I might add) that you are glad your kid goes to a school like Wakefield DOES NOT mean that you think nothing bad ever happens at Wakefield.

However, jumping on that Wakefield statement, in a thread about a teen porn website involving McLean students, and posting stats about high school graduation rates at Wakefield DOES mean that you are (a) lacking a sense of humor and (b) an idiot.

I'm glad we cleared that up. From now on, I'll know that the high dropout rate, teen pregnancies and low test scores at Wakefield are your run-of-the-mill sitcom material.

Please take your concerns about the high dropout rate, teen pregnancies, and low test scores at Wakefield to another thread. I know you are a caring person who is looking for ideas on how to get involved and help solve some of these issues, so i would hate for the discussion to get short shrift here, in a thread about teenagers from McLean high school creating, distributing, and viewing under-age porn.

Clearly, this thread has blossomed into a broader discussion about kids today, parenting, and the appropriate use of the Internet and technology. It would seem unfair to limit it only to the antics of the McLean students when there have been more egregious allegations involving students from other schools, including West Springfield and Marshall.

Perhaps, but it is not clear how drop-out rates, teen pregnancies, and low test scores relate to the internet. And it is certainly not clear how that photo above relates to the issue at hand.

SMH.

Is this the incident involving the Marshall student?

http://fcnp.com/2013/07/12/f-c-man-charged-with-possession-of-child-porn/