Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Missouri is a red state, isn’t it? Can OP answer why the Republicans there are letting this happen?
I’m op of the thread and I’m not sure wtf you’re talking about. But this is not a Dem or Rep issue. Both sides suck on this issue.
You’re stupid. The GOP is the one currently in power. Why are you harping about Democrats?
Huh? Where am I harping? You don’t seem to understand that there are many people on this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Missouri is a red state, isn’t it? Can OP answer why the Republicans there are letting this happen?
I’m op of the thread and I’m not sure wtf you’re talking about. But this is not a Dem or Rep issue. Both sides suck on this issue.
You’re stupid. The GOP is the one currently in power. Why are you harping about Democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Missouri is a red state, isn’t it? Can OP answer why the Republicans there are letting this happen?
Anonymous wrote:
Ok, good thing republicans can stop it, too. Where are they?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Missouri is a red state, isn’t it? Can OP answer why the Republicans there are letting this happen?
I’m op of the thread and I’m not sure wtf you’re talking about. But this is not a Dem or Rep issue. Both sides suck on this issue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Missouri is a red state, isn’t it? Can OP answer why the Republicans there are letting this happen?
Anonymous wrote:
Any of my friends and colleagues could do this job. Anyone 2 years out of college, even 1 year out. A smart American young adult of any ethnicity, of any background, so long as they’ve proved themselves a bit in college, could be easily trained to do this job.
(2-3 years out could figure it out with little to no training, one year out might have to be monitored, hand holding for 3-6 months)
H1b is basically ethnically choosing who this will be. Down to 1-3 countries of origin. That is wrong. Full stop.
Anonymous wrote:
Ok, good thing republicans can stop it, too. Where are they?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who'll care for children and elderly? Those two industries depend largely on illegal or new immigrants.
There is something very fundamentally wrong with a country which relies on exploiting illegal immigrants to care for its most vulnerable people – the elderly and children.
But if the system only works by having very cheap labour to do these jobs, create a visa sub class specifically for this. Then you can ensure there are bare minimum protections like healthcare, a floor on remuneration, and conditions like how long the worker can remain in the country, whether they are tied to a particular employer or agency, etc. One of the main reasons to have an immigration system is to identify and address skill shortages.
You are wrong. They are not all undocumented, and you know that. If you want to demand that MAGA drop the patriarchy, then those jobs will surely pay more. But, since MAGA hates women and children, that's not going to happen. GenX has officially screwed themselves (and their GenZ children who won't have childcare).
https://rollcall.com/2025/01/09/trumps-immigration-plans-could-imperil-long-term-care-workforce/
Since when do liberals go around caring about being wrong. They have lied and been called out numerous times in the thread.
My favorite is "Democrats support e-verify". You need to do a better job calling out your own.
BULLSHIT.
Examples of Democrats Backing E‑Verify (with concrete receipts)
Democrats repeatedly reauthorized and funded E‑Verify
– 2007, 2009, 2012, 2013 reauthorizations all passed with Democratic majorities or unified Democratic control.
– These votes kept E‑Verify alive and expanded.
2013 "Gang of Eight" bill (S.744)
– Co‑written by four Democratic senators (Schumer, Durbin, Menendez, Bennet).
– Included mandatory nationwide E‑Verify with phased rollout.
– Passed the Senate 68–32, with every Democrat voting yes.
Obama administration expanded E‑Verify for federal contractors
– DHS under Obama strengthened the system, added photo‑matching, and required E‑Verify for federal contractors.
Bernie Sanders (2019)
– Told Washington Post he supported "a smart and fair employment verification system," which his campaign confirmed meant an improved E‑Verify‑type system.
State‑level Democratic support (Florida)
– Reporting shows some Florida Democrats introduced or backed bills requiring all employers to use E‑Verify, alongside GOP proposals.
When you live in the MAGA bubble reality is a lie. And then you get outside of your bubble, totally oblivious to FACTS like this and lie when you accuse Democrats of never supporting e-Verify.
Maybe you didn't see the link above, but they clearly don't support it at the state level unlike Republican states.
Which link - the I9 one above? That shows a ton of red states like North Dakota have not mandated e-Verify. In fact only 38% of red states have across-the-board e-Verify mandates.
Even South Dakota only has voluntary e-Verify. If even Kristi "ICE Barbie" Noem couldn't get mandatory across-the-board e-Verify passed in a deep red state like South Dakota when she was Governor there, the PP's narratives about how this is all about Democrats collapses pathetically.
Democrats think that is important South Dakota, but what about California. California actually restricts the use of voluntary e-verify.
Oh, noes liberals saying stuff on the internet again.
Oh, noes MAGA making nonsensical arguments again when their lies are called out.
Democrat lies are more numerous than fraudulent social security numbers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who'll care for children and elderly? Those two industries depend largely on illegal or new immigrants.
There is something very fundamentally wrong with a country which relies on exploiting illegal immigrants to care for its most vulnerable people – the elderly and children.
But if the system only works by having very cheap labour to do these jobs, create a visa sub class specifically for this. Then you can ensure there are bare minimum protections like healthcare, a floor on remuneration, and conditions like how long the worker can remain in the country, whether they are tied to a particular employer or agency, etc. One of the main reasons to have an immigration system is to identify and address skill shortages.
You are wrong. They are not all undocumented, and you know that. If you want to demand that MAGA drop the patriarchy, then those jobs will surely pay more. But, since MAGA hates women and children, that's not going to happen. GenX has officially screwed themselves (and their GenZ children who won't have childcare).
https://rollcall.com/2025/01/09/trumps-immigration-plans-could-imperil-long-term-care-workforce/
Since when do liberals go around caring about being wrong. They have lied and been called out numerous times in the thread.
My favorite is "Democrats support e-verify". You need to do a better job calling out your own.
BULLSHIT.
Examples of Democrats Backing E‑Verify (with concrete receipts)
Democrats repeatedly reauthorized and funded E‑Verify
– 2007, 2009, 2012, 2013 reauthorizations all passed with Democratic majorities or unified Democratic control.
– These votes kept E‑Verify alive and expanded.
2013 "Gang of Eight" bill (S.744)
– Co‑written by four Democratic senators (Schumer, Durbin, Menendez, Bennet).
– Included mandatory nationwide E‑Verify with phased rollout.
– Passed the Senate 68–32, with every Democrat voting yes.
Obama administration expanded E‑Verify for federal contractors
– DHS under Obama strengthened the system, added photo‑matching, and required E‑Verify for federal contractors.
Bernie Sanders (2019)
– Told Washington Post he supported "a smart and fair employment verification system," which his campaign confirmed meant an improved E‑Verify‑type system.
State‑level Democratic support (Florida)
– Reporting shows some Florida Democrats introduced or backed bills requiring all employers to use E‑Verify, alongside GOP proposals.
When you live in the MAGA bubble reality is a lie. And then you get outside of your bubble, totally oblivious to FACTS like this and lie when you accuse Democrats of never supporting e-Verify.
Maybe you didn't see the link above, but they clearly don't support it at the state level unlike Republican states.
Which link - the I9 one above? That shows a ton of red states like North Dakota have not mandated e-Verify. In fact only 38% of red states have across-the-board e-Verify mandates.
Even South Dakota only has voluntary e-Verify. If even Kristi "ICE Barbie" Noem couldn't get mandatory across-the-board e-Verify passed in a deep red state like South Dakota when she was Governor there, the PP's narratives about how this is all about Democrats collapses pathetically.
Democrats think that is important South Dakota, but what about California. California actually restricts the use of voluntary e-verify.
Oh, noes liberals saying stuff on the internet again.
Oh, noes MAGA making nonsensical arguments again when their lies are called out.
Democrat lies are more numerous than fraudulent social security numbers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who'll care for children and elderly? Those two industries depend largely on illegal or new immigrants.
There is something very fundamentally wrong with a country which relies on exploiting illegal immigrants to care for its most vulnerable people – the elderly and children.
But if the system only works by having very cheap labour to do these jobs, create a visa sub class specifically for this. Then you can ensure there are bare minimum protections like healthcare, a floor on remuneration, and conditions like how long the worker can remain in the country, whether they are tied to a particular employer or agency, etc. One of the main reasons to have an immigration system is to identify and address skill shortages.