Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 21:09     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?


I can't see that happening unless they put Lee's Corner at Westfield and then greenbriar east to Chantilly. I think that has about 0.01% chance of that though.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 21:07     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:Buying this high school should make other boundary issues moot. This is what they've been talking about for more than two decades.


I am not sure it makes other boundary issues moot. But it's a far more significant event/transaction than anything else they've had on their plate for many years.

The sloppy boundary proposals that Thru Consulting came up with suggests FCPS doesn't have either the internal or the external expertise to manage county-wide boundary changes effectively. Everyone would be far better served if they concentrate on this big ticket item and leave any other boundary changes (or at least those affecting MS and HS) for another day after the KAA-related boundary adjustments have been agreed upon. If they need to do something that Thru recommended to justify Thru's fee, they should limit those changes to ES boundary changes.

They are claiming the KAA transaction will save FCPS close to $300M so Thru's $500K fee is a rounding error in the larger scheme of things.

Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 21:00     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


+100
Or at least, eliminate all centers.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:56     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Buying this high school should make other boundary issues moot. This is what they've been talking about for more than two decades.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:30     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:22     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Lots of new construction near Westfield. Move neighborhoods along 29 that are nest to Centreville into Centreville
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:21     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


Probably too big and one of the last three feeders - most likely Fox Mill - would need to stay put. South Lakes would already be losing kids from Floris and Crossfield.

We should not be adding onto KAA, only configuring the existing space.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:14     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 20:07     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 18:07     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Franklin Farm and went to Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. While Oakton was a great school, the commute was brutal and I could barely function for the first two periods based on the start time. The new KAA site is 5 mins from my current house, which would be amazing for my kid.


We live in FF and I am really curious who will go to this HS. It seems more likely that it will be kids west of the Fairfax County Parkway who currently go to Chantilly/Westfield/South Lakes, but I could be wrong. It may not be as simple as taking everyone who goes to Carson now and sending them to the new HS especially if it’s smaller. The boundaries are kind of a mess in this part of the county. I hope they take a fresh look at the ES and MS boundaries in light of this development and not push forward with what the proposed maps have been showing.


I think they will need to figure out who they want to go to the new high school and then back into what they want the middle schools to be.

If Franklin Farm stays Oakton. I could foresee them having Oak Hill and Crossfield swap middle schools. Oak Hill, Floris, Coates and McNair could feed Carson and then the new HS. Not sure what they would do with Fox Mill.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 17:36     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Franklin Farm and went to Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. While Oakton was a great school, the commute was brutal and I could barely function for the first two periods based on the start time. The new KAA site is 5 mins from my current house, which would be amazing for my kid.


We live in FF and I am really curious who will go to this HS. It seems more likely that it will be kids west of the Fairfax County Parkway who currently go to Chantilly/Westfield/South Lakes, but I could be wrong. It may not be as simple as taking everyone who goes to Carson now and sending them to the new HS especially if it’s smaller. The boundaries are kind of a mess in this part of the county. I hope they take a fresh look at the ES and MS boundaries in light of this development and not push forward with what the proposed maps have been showing.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 17:25     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Franklin Farm and went to Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. While Oakton was a great school, the commute was brutal and I could barely function for the first two periods based on the start time. The new KAA site is 5 mins from my current house, which would be amazing for my kid.


They likely adjusted the HS start times since you went to Oakton.


Still a brutal commute.

Even longer now.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 17:24     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Franklin Farm and went to Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. While Oakton was a great school, the commute was brutal and I could barely function for the first two periods based on the start time. The new KAA site is 5 mins from my current house, which would be amazing for my kid.


They likely adjusted the HS start times since you went to Oakton.


Still a brutal commute.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 17:18     Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Franklin Farm and went to Crossfield-Franklin-Oakton. While Oakton was a great school, the commute was brutal and I could barely function for the first two periods based on the start time. The new KAA site is 5 mins from my current house, which would be amazing for my kid.


They likely adjusted the HS start times since you went to Oakton.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2025 17:06     Subject: Re:King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The facility is a bargain. Renovations can be quick because the school will not be in use--as in the other schools being renovated.

This is fiscally a very good solution.


Well, if it is as you claim it to be, why shroud the whole process in secrecy?


Yes, when you negotiate to purchase a house, I'm sure you put out all the details ahead of time.

Remember, it was just a very few months ago that KAA announced its closure. And, speaking of secrecy, suggest you look at how the county gave it to KAA to begin with.

It was done before anyone in the community knew about it. Prior to that, it was the site of the Western High school.

Some elected person must have made out somehow, no?