Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 09:45     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.

When I worked in Silicon Valley, very few were from elite Indian schools. Most were just regular folks who attended schools nobody had even heard of.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 09:43     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Maybe once upon a time, you could argue that there was a need for this program, but today, with the massive increase in CS majors and tens of thousands being laid off in tech, there is no justification. Presently, the HxB visa workforce makes up roughly 20% of all industry jobs and exists solely to lower wages for American workers.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 05:41     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.


It’s almost impossible to get into medical school in the US and we have plenty of qualified candidates. We should be expanding our own schools vs bringing in immigrants who will then chain migrate their huge, extended families. This includes elderly parents who milk the system.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 22:16     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders
They haven't been in a hospital lately.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 21:32     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.


Why would we want India trained doctors?

Who’s going to tell this poster?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 21:30     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have an opening

Pause H1xxB and OxxPT job outsourcing programs.

They could fight for America First and US Citizens first

would be a great step to redeem the party

Both parties are beholden to their corporate overlords.


The Republicans are WAY more beholden to the Corporate/Billionaire/0.1% Elites.


More but no "WAY" more. All of our Federal level GOP and Dem politicians are bought out puppets to some degree.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 21:28     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have an opening

Pause H1xxB and OxxPT job outsourcing programs.

They could fight for America First and US Citizens first

would be a great step to redeem the party

Both parties are beholden to their corporate overlords.


The Republicans are WAY more beholden to the Corporate/Billionaire/0.1% Elites.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 21:09     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.


Why would we want India trained doctors?


Do you have any idea how stupid American kids are? If we only had that talent pool to tap into, there would be no more doctors.

Kids graduating high school in America today can barely read or count.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 21:02     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.


Why would we want India trained doctors?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 19:51     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No country has wide open unchecked borders like the democrat party.pushed. No country.

Everyone else has the common sense to realize it's suicide.


The democrats perhaps embraced it, foolishly, but make no mistake the (land!) borders of this country were always wide open for many decades. Under every administration.

And correct, no other country has unchecked illegal/undocumented immigration.

This is due to having no national ID in this country.


I think it's more so due to being in a country ruled by two major political parties that have performed atrociously in recent decades. We normal folks are still very proud Americans.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 19:47     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:No country has wide open unchecked borders like the democrat party.pushed. No country.

Everyone else has the common sense to realize it's suicide.


The democrats perhaps embraced it, foolishly, but make no mistake the (land!) borders of this country were always wide open for many decades. Under every administration.

And correct, no other country has unchecked illegal/undocumented immigration.

This is due to having no national ID in this country.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 18:34     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
No country has wide open unchecked borders like the democrat party.pushed. No country.

Everyone else has the common sense to realize it's suicide.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 11:06     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Overall, there’s a huge migration around the planet, and at a rapid pace. This not only affects the U.S., you see the changes around the world. While in decades and centuries past, migration was slower, and generally immigrants had some enthusiasm for their new chosen country… there is little now. Immigrants in centuries past enriched their new countries by openly sharing, while also truly integrating. They are not doing this anymore to the extent people before them did… likely for a wide variety of reasons….

This is the crux of the matter.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 10:47     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a raging attack on H1-B visa holders, highly skilled immigrants on Twitter right now. MAGA is roasting Elon and Ramaswammy for their support of the inflow of highly skilled immigrants in the country.

I cannot believe this is even an argument. People are so dumb.


I am an Indian American and my DH works in tech so I am quite familiar with the complexities of this topic. This issue is not simple, there is a genuine shortage of competent IT professionals, I am supportive of H1-B if they are bringing in engineers from IIT s( elite engineering schools in India, IITians command 100k salaries in India), bringing in IIT would truly mean bringing the “best and the brightest”, U.S can benefit tremendously from this IMO.

However, more often than not this is not the case, corporations are interested in bringing in the cheapest talent possible not the best and brightest, so this drives the wages down. Also, I truly feel we have plenty of talent here in the USA, they need to work on supporting our own talent rather than importing talent so corporations can benefit.

As for the hate, this is not new. People should hate the corporations that are enriching themselves over the backs of these people but as always it’s easier to hate brown people rather than take it up with powers that be.


The thing is that the graduates of the elite engineering schools in India have only one goal; to come here to the US, or do they not? I know this is the same at Indian Medical Schools. It’s a firmly laid out path, that a large percentage of the graduating class follows with a huge drive. This is the opposite from graduates of corresponding schools in Europe (who do not come here), Australia, etc.

However, it’s absolutely ridiculous to argue about the one program that brings *skilled* people in *legally*, when there are millions of unskilled simply walking across and staying illegally. Either way all of them are economic opportunists, and most don’t love America, other than as a vehicle (and none are refugees). Traditionally, the U.S. is the “Land of Opportunity”, so there’s that.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 08:43     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats have an opening

Pause H1xxB and OxxPT job outsourcing programs.

They could fight for America First and US Citizens first

would be a great step to redeem the party

Both parties are beholden to their corporate overlords.


Well, the corporate dems like Pelosi, Clintons, and Obamas are as much as any R. That's why I have to laugh when people call them socialist. This couldn't be further from the truth.