Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 18:06     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
There are bilingual schools in the suburbs if Spanish is important to you. There are options. No one is trapped at MV and parents should not be deluded into thinking they can change the school.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 18:03     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
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Anonymous wrote:But having your kids have not learn in elementary just to have a chance (or even a guarantee) of DCI is just not worth it. If you value your kids education, you need to find a better option. It may mean going in bounds for elementary and then moving if you don't get into a good middle school off the lottery. Most people on DCUM could afford to move (maybe not to as big a place and maybe not as fun a neighborhood) if needed for a better school.


It depends on your DCI feeder and how well that school works with your kids.

And frankly I would choose Mundo Verde with a dci feed over Eliot Hine/Stuart Hobson and Eastern.

Also it’s good to learn Spanish.


learning was important to our family. so we left MV. figured i could get a Spanish tutor or some type of supplemental...
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:37     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:But having your kids have not learn in elementary just to have a chance (or even a guarantee) of DCI is just not worth it. If you value your kids education, you need to find a better option. It may mean going in bounds for elementary and then moving if you don't get into a good middle school off the lottery. Most people on DCUM could afford to move (maybe not to as big a place and maybe not as fun a neighborhood) if needed for a better school.


How good can DCI be if it's receiving lots of elementary kids that haven't learned much in elementary school? Does DCI have some sort of remediation/catch up plan in place at 6th grade the way BASIS does in 5th grade?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:25     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:But having your kids have not learn in elementary just to have a chance (or even a guarantee) of DCI is just not worth it. If you value your kids education, you need to find a better option. It may mean going in bounds for elementary and then moving if you don't get into a good middle school off the lottery. Most people on DCUM could afford to move (maybe not to as big a place and maybe not as fun a neighborhood) if needed for a better school.


It depends on your DCI feeder and how well that school works with your kids.

And frankly I would choose Mundo Verde with a dci feed over Eliot Hine/Stuart Hobson and Eastern.

Also it’s good to learn Spanish.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:23     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.


That wasn’t my point and of course no school is perfect for everyone. The point was the arrogance and insistence that of course MV was better than a lowly DCPS and DCPS parents are at best short sighted. There are charters we would choose over our current school, MV was not and certainly still is not one of them.


You can look the participation rate here so you can get an idea of how many parents don’t like their IB:

https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx


That’s overly simplistic. Many people choose schools based on feeder patterns or special programs, not because they “don’t like” their IB. If their IB suddenly became a Deal feeder, I bet you’d see those numbers reverse ASAP.


But that still supports the point overall. We chose a charter (not Mundo) because while we have an excellent inbound elementary our middle and high school are nonstarters for us. So in effect, we don’t like our inbound options.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 17:14     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
But having your kids have not learn in elementary just to have a chance (or even a guarantee) of DCI is just not worth it. If you value your kids education, you need to find a better option. It may mean going in bounds for elementary and then moving if you don't get into a good middle school off the lottery. Most people on DCUM could afford to move (maybe not to as big a place and maybe not as fun a neighborhood) if needed for a better school.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:46     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.


That wasn’t my point and of course no school is perfect for everyone. The point was the arrogance and insistence that of course MV was better than a lowly DCPS and DCPS parents are at best short sighted. There are charters we would choose over our current school, MV was not and certainly still is not one of them.


You can look the participation rate here so you can get an idea of how many parents don’t like their IB:

https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx


That’s overly simplistic. Many people choose schools based on feeder patterns or special programs, not because they “don’t like” their IB. If their IB suddenly became a Deal feeder, I bet you’d see those numbers reverse ASAP.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:16     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.


That wasn’t my point and of course no school is perfect for everyone. The point was the arrogance and insistence that of course MV was better than a lowly DCPS and DCPS parents are at best short sighted. There are charters we would choose over our current school, MV was not and certainly still is not one of them.


You can look the participation rate here so you can get an idea of how many parents don’t like their IB:

https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:13     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.


That wasn’t my point and of course no school is perfect for everyone. The point was the arrogance and insistence that of course MV was better than a lowly DCPS and DCPS parents are at best short sighted. There are charters we would choose over our current school, MV was not and certainly still is not one of them.


That is your opinion, not a fact. There is a lot of data ( re-enrollment, where kids go to school, PARCC scores, etc) that don’t support your statement.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 16:03     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.


That wasn’t my point and of course no school is perfect for everyone. The point was the arrogance and insistence that of course MV was better than a lowly DCPS and DCPS parents are at best short sighted. There are charters we would choose over our current school, MV was not and certainly still is not one of them.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 15:38     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).


+1 exactly. No school is perfect for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 15:10     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…


Eh, it's not one or the other. Some people have convinced themselves their IB is no good and will got to a charter or private no matter what. Other people know for a fact that their IB doesn't meet their needs, whether because they've already sent a child there or because they have more intimate familiarity with it. It can go both ways.

- a parent with kids at their IB who is looking for a charter because the IB is not good (but has eyes wide open to the ways in which charters also fail kids).
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 15:06     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.


+100. I got in a DCUM argument with someone a year or two ago about our DCPS bilingual vs. MV. I sometimes wonder how that poster is doing and whether they’re still at MV…
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 14:15     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mundo's quality has always fallen off after first grade. We saw the writing on the wall and left. The school is not going to improve for the upper grades with Kristen in charge. If you care enough about your kid's education to protest and find tutors, you need to take that energy and find another school. Most people have a better option - either their in bound school (most DCPS schools are better than Mundo) or most DCUM parents could afford to leave DC.


Their IB is not a better option. People that leave a charter school go to another charter or private, no one goes back to their IB.


No, they are going to others charters bc their IB isn't better. they are going bc they *convinced themselves* that their IB is not better, but often they are totally wrong.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2023 09:16     Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:The real issue with the backfilling as adding so many kids without the Spanish background. It sets the whole system up for failure. The model was based on adding a few in Kindergarten but none later.


Exactly. They are setting these poor kids up for failure and increasing risk of behavioral problems. I don't think this should even be allowed. Half the instructional time is in a language these kids don't speak or understand.