Anonymous
Post 06/03/2023 10:15     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Mcps should make it a goal to give teachers professional autonomy as well as fire not promote principals who fail to report crime. If principals are promoted when failing to report crime it sets a double standard that will cause more and more teachers to throw in the towel.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 18:00     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


And "you people" should respect how difficult it is for parents to send their children into schools that have no consequences for bad behavior. We didn't decide to get rid of consequences. MCPS can't handle being called racist so they just decided to abolish discipline. Not my fault.


You CAN do your job at home and actually parent your kids though. These kids act feral. That is not on the school system-it starts at home. Raise your kids.


My child is not the one acting out. She is the one coping with other kids' misbehavior and I am not buying that we can just tell parents to "actually parent your kids" when there are ZERO consequences in schools. Come on.


If kids knew how to behave in public, they wouldn’t need consequences in schools. Starts. At. Home. Period.


My kid's schools have consequences. There are kids who have received both detentions and suspensions. Not sure which parallel MCPS you are posting from.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 17:57     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


And "you people" should respect how difficult it is for parents to send their children into schools that have no consequences for bad behavior. We didn't decide to get rid of consequences. MCPS can't handle being called racist so they just decided to abolish discipline. Not my fault.


You CAN do your job at home and actually parent your kids though. These kids act feral. That is not on the school system-it starts at home. Raise your kids.


My child is not the one acting out. She is the one coping with other kids' misbehavior and I am not buying that we can just tell parents to "actually parent your kids" when there are ZERO consequences in schools. Come on.


If kids knew how to behave in public, they wouldn’t need consequences in schools. Starts. At. Home. Period.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 17:00     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


It is not. Discipline problems should go to the virtual academy.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 11:37     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


And "you people" should respect how difficult it is for parents to send their children into schools that have no consequences for bad behavior. We didn't decide to get rid of consequences. MCPS can't handle being called racist so they just decided to abolish discipline. Not my fault.


You CAN do your job at home and actually parent your kids though. These kids act feral. That is not on the school system-it starts at home. Raise your kids.


My child is not the one acting out. She is the one coping with other kids' misbehavior and I am not buying that we can just tell parents to "actually parent your kids" when there are ZERO consequences in schools. Come on.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 11:36     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


And "you people" should respect how difficult it is for parents to send their children into schools that have no consequences for bad behavior. We didn't decide to get rid of consequences. MCPS can't handle being called racist so they just decided to abolish discipline. Not my fault.


You CAN do your job at home and actually parent your kids though. These kids act feral. That is not on the school system-it starts at home. Raise your kids.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 10:05     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?


And "you people" should respect how difficult it is for parents to send their children into schools that have no consequences for bad behavior. We didn't decide to get rid of consequences. MCPS can't handle being called racist so they just decided to abolish discipline. Not my fault.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2023 08:51     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
You people should respect how difficult the profession is when you have kids acting out and how teachers feel powerless when trying to implement consequences.

If you are not allowed to correct the students the behavior gets worse and worse.

You principal downgrades you and punishes the teacher because they can control the students and they can't punish them.

Is this healthy for teachers or good for a students education?
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 18:42     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:I am an experienced MCPS teacher. If the author of the past few posts taught with the same "effectiveness" of her ranting posts, I can definitely see why she was let go.

This.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 05:51     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Great point. We don't want to carry out our profession in a culture of fear. We just want to be respected and protected and we shouldn't fest going into work or opening our mouths to state facts. The fact that we do fear those things points at the problems.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 05:10     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. That statement is gaslighting. The public wants answers as to why teachers are unsupported in a toxic climate and your statement is gaslighting. Well I guess it's par for the course thus supporting my thesis. Teachers are not on the same page. New teachers will be ganged up on if they don't shut their mouths and go with it

Your apathy when your industry is in crisis is frightening.


100% My first year coming in as a 2nd career education I was told to shut my mouth and know my place by a 'seasoned' teacher when I spoke up about practices I knew were not equitable towards all students. I knew then I made a huge mistake going into teaching. I do keep my mouth shut now. You will absolutely be penalized. There is no environment of collaboration. MCPS has made things so toxic from teacher to teacher - it's so hard to know who to trust! I just focus on ensuring my students are doing the best they can with the tools I can offer them.....and I'm working on my exit plan now. There are so many corrupt individuals who KNOW things are bad, but refuse to speak up. Why? Who knows...protecting their own interests I suppose.


And this is why things will continue to get worse instead of getting better. Instead of teachers taking their union to task on not fighting for the things they and they students really need, folks are turning on one another and planning to take their ball and go home.

I don’t want teacher’s suffering in silence. I want them to loudly rally for what they and their students actually need. I want them to rally for true professional development. I want them to expose corruption and lazy administrators. I want them to challenge them politicians to make meaningful education policy.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 12:13     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Well she thinks you're not well either. Of you are a teacher she is trying to protect the integrity of your position and all you can do is gaslight her. You should be thanking her for speaking about her experiences in a way that gives the public insight to this real world dillema.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 11:48     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:Wow. That statement is gaslighting. The public wants answers as to why teachers are unsupported in a toxic climate and your statement is gaslighting. Well I guess it's par for the course thus supporting my thesis. Teachers are not on the same page. New teachers will be ganged up on if they don't shut their mouths and go with it

Your apathy when your industry is in crisis is frightening.


100% My first year coming in as a 2nd career education I was told to shut my mouth and know my place by a 'seasoned' teacher when I spoke up about practices I knew were not equitable towards all students. I knew then I made a huge mistake going into teaching. I do keep my mouth shut now. You will absolutely be penalized. There is no environment of collaboration. MCPS has made things so toxic from teacher to teacher - it's so hard to know who to trust! I just focus on ensuring my students are doing the best they can with the tools I can offer them.....and I'm working on my exit plan now. There are so many corrupt individuals who KNOW things are bad, but refuse to speak up. Why? Who knows...protecting their own interests I suppose.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 08:27     Subject: MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
Anonymous wrote:Teachers want to leave because of absurd administration and parents. Bottom line. Administration and the insane amount of micromanaging that occurred this year....all for all of their plans to fail. Not sure what the messaging from central office was, but this year was a disaster. Parents are a huge problem as well. Don't expect schools to raise your kid for you. You need to do this as well. Also, it's 2023...the parents still clinging to the "it's because of the pandemic" excuse are jokes.


As long as they keep creating more CO jobs, I'd expect more and more micromanagement. However, if they trim those jobs, there would be less busy work. It seems like cutting CO would be a huge win for both tax payers and teachers.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2023 20:31     Subject: Re:MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday
I responded to the "binders, grade inflation" poster earlier. I am not an administrator. I will not respond to these anymore because I don't think she's well. I think this situation is sad but for reasons that have nothing to do with the specifics of her posts.