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Anonymous wrote:Gotta love all the moms whose kids get dropped from a friend group and place blame on all the other kids and not look at their own child. And they throw out queen b and mean girls to rationalize that your kid is “so innocent” but maybe your kid did some things or are nothing like the rest of the group. That the other moms forced the friendship and your kid had fake friends for years. And now they are sick of mom engineered friend-based groups and moving on.

My youngest is high maintenance. I knew once Girl Scouts and group activities would start falling off, her friendships would too. It sucked but I am not an idiot to know that my daughter isn’t the coolest to hang out with. She is immature, likes playing kid games, and is kinda loud. Most of the other girls stayed friends. My daughter eventually found her tribe and all was well. I would never ever ever place blame on other children and name call them like some of you nasty moms here. And I certainly wouldn’t let my daughter bad mouth anyone. I made her rise above. She is even friendly with 2 of them again now that they are in 8th grade and she has matured more to their level.

The throwing around bully, mean girls, and queen b on friendships that die once they can do their own things is embarrassing. Over-involved moms are the toxic ones.

Your parenting style is not one I would hold up as some exemplary style. Nor is your post one that demonstrates your ability to "rise above." I literally laughed when read that, given how judgy, smug, and bit---y your post is.

Yikes, you laughed when the PP asked her daughter to rise above and not bad mouth other kids her age and move on? Is good parenting calling the parents, demanding their kid still gets to hang out, and make their kid conform to others.

What the heck is wrong with you?

You should be directing that to the other poster, who was indeed judgmental, smug, and bi---y.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love all the moms whose kids get dropped from a friend group and place blame on all the other kids and not look at their own child. And they throw out queen b and mean girls to rationalize that your kid is “so innocent” but maybe your kid did some things or are nothing like the rest of the group. That the other moms forced the friendship and your kid had fake friends for years. And now they are sick of mom engineered friend-based groups and moving on.

My youngest is high maintenance. I knew once Girl Scouts and group activities would start falling off, her friendships would too. It sucked but I am not an idiot to know that my daughter isn’t the coolest to hang out with. She is immature, likes playing kid games, and is kinda loud. Most of the other girls stayed friends. My daughter eventually found her tribe and all was well. I would never ever ever place blame on other children and name call them like some of you nasty moms here. And I certainly wouldn’t let my daughter bad mouth anyone. I made her rise above. She is even friendly with 2 of them again now that they are in 8th grade and she has matured more to their level.

The throwing around bully, mean girls, and queen b on friendships that die once they can do their own things is embarrassing. Over-involved moms are the toxic ones.

Your parenting style is not one I would hold up as some exemplary style. Nor is your post one that demonstrates your ability to "rise above." I literally laughed when read that, given how judgy, smug, and bit---y your post is.

Yikes, you laughed when the PP asked her daughter to rise above and not bad mouth other kids her age and move on? Is good parenting calling the parents, demanding their kid still gets to hang out, and make their kid conform to others.

What the heck is wrong with you?

Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

I'm a parent that definately thinks "what did my kid do wrong" when I'm told stuff. I thought that with my girl in ES when her good friend (x) would make complaints about very petty stuff and that my kid was being mean, etc. (I was best friends with X's mom for awhile). Then I began learned to question the other kids involved when there were issues (via asking their moms, also good friends). Amazingly, I learned that 99.9% of the trouble in the group of 4 kids was kid X; the stories Mom of X was telling me were complete lies, and my kid was telling the truth 99.9% of the time. Kid X tried to control what they girls did at lunch/recess and tried to turn the other 2 against my kid in ES at times. Eventually, I learned that my kid was the one telling the truth and Kid X was the one "bullying" others. If kid x didn't get her way at recess (the girls would rotate who got to pick games each day, to try and keep it fair), she would pout and try to pull the others with her or she would tell my kid she couldn't sit at their table at lunch (and the other 2 kids were too shy, scared to say anything---my shy kid spent 2 months of first grade forced to eat at a different table by Kid X, yet Kid X was someone do activities with after school and Kid X would ask for playdates, etc. ). By 4/5th grade one other in the group learned to stand up to kid X as well and that helped put an end to it (my kid had always just walked away and would join another group) . Moved away in MS and then I heard even more stories about Kid X from my kid. Learned I should have done a lot more in ES---my kid stood up for herself the best she could and didn't turn mean. I think Kid X just did these things because she wanted more attention from her parents and she enjoyed being able to be mean and have the adults assume it was others being mean to her.

Also figured out by 4th/5th grade that Kid X's younger sibling (lets call them Kid Z) was a terror/violent/mean when around Kid X. I'm talking sending Kid X to ER a few times for throwing stuff/hitting hard/etc. Her Parents always believed Kid X and blamed the younger Kid Z. Then I had Kid Z with me and my kids several times for longer periods and I quickly learned Kid Z exhibited NONE of those behaviors when Kid X was NOT around (ie when not being bullied/taunted). I suspect the older sibling was bullying (verbal and extreme sibling physical taunting) and got away with it because the parents believe kid X and "no way my kid could be doing that, she said she wasn't so it's not possible". Kid X parents always complained about everyone else's kids, but Kid X could never do any wrong.

Well turns out they were very wrong. And this behavior was very mild compared to alot of what happened in ES

posts like this are what concern me. You are so heavily involved and invested in your kid's lives. Are they able to think and do for themselves?

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Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

I'm a parent that definately thinks "what did my kid do wrong" when I'm told stuff. I thought that with my girl in ES when her good friend (x) would make complaints about very petty stuff and that my kid was being mean, etc. (I was best friends with X's mom for awhile). Then I began learned to question the other kids involved when there were issues (via asking their moms, also good friends). Amazingly, I learned that 99.9% of the trouble in the group of 4 kids was kid X; the stories Mom of X was telling me were complete lies, and my kid was telling the truth 99.9% of the time. Kid X tried to control what they girls did at lunch/recess and tried to turn the other 2 against my kid in ES at times. Eventually, I learned that my kid was the one telling the truth and Kid X was the one "bullying" others. If kid x didn't get her way at recess (the girls would rotate who got to pick games each day, to try and keep it fair), she would pout and try to pull the others with her or she would tell my kid she couldn't sit at their table at lunch (and the other 2 kids were too shy, scared to say anything---my shy kid spent 2 months of first grade forced to eat at a different table by Kid X, yet Kid X was someone do activities with after school and Kid X would ask for playdates, etc. ). By 4/5th grade one other in the group learned to stand up to kid X as well and that helped put an end to it (my kid had always just walked away and would join another group) . Moved away in MS and then I heard even more stories about Kid X from my kid. Learned I should have done a lot more in ES---my kid stood up for herself the best she could and didn't turn mean. I think Kid X just did these things because she wanted more attention from her parents and she enjoyed being able to be mean and have the adults assume it was others being mean to her.

Also figured out by 4th/5th grade that Kid X's younger sibling (lets call them Kid Z) was a terror/violent/mean when around Kid X. I'm talking sending Kid X to ER a few times for throwing stuff/hitting hard/etc. Her Parents always believed Kid X and blamed the younger Kid Z. Then I had Kid Z with me and my kids several times for longer periods and I quickly learned Kid Z exhibited NONE of those behaviors when Kid X was NOT around (ie when not being bullied/taunted). I suspect the older sibling was bullying (verbal and extreme sibling physical taunting) and got away with it because the parents believe kid X and "no way my kid could be doing that, she said she wasn't so it's not possible". Kid X parents always complained about everyone else's kids, but Kid X could never do any wrong.

Well turns out they were very wrong. And this behavior was very mild compared to alot of what happened in ES

Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

Anonymous wrote:See this is the problem. Over-coddling moms who point fingers at others instead of themselves. The previous post is spot on and the retort from another mom is a picture of the mean girls. It's so immature for parents to bad-mouth kids. Like so petty and ridiculous and they see no wrong in it or themselves, or their own kids. I am right and you are wrong. What a way to parent!

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love all the moms whose kids get dropped from a friend group and place blame on all the other kids and not look at their own child. And they throw out queen b and mean girls to rationalize that your kid is “so innocent” but maybe your kid did some things or are nothing like the rest of the group. That the other moms forced the friendship and your kid had fake friends for years. And now they are sick of mom engineered friend-based groups and moving on.

My youngest is high maintenance. I knew once Girl Scouts and group activities would start falling off, her friendships would too. It sucked but I am not an idiot to know that my daughter isn’t the coolest to hang out with. She is immature, likes playing kid games, and is kinda loud. Most of the other girls stayed friends. My daughter eventually found her tribe and all was well. I would never ever ever place blame on other children and name call them like some of you nasty moms here. And I certainly wouldn’t let my daughter bad mouth anyone. I made her rise above. She is even friendly with 2 of them again now that they are in 8th grade and she has matured more to their level.

The throwing around bully, mean girls, and queen b on friendships that die once they can do their own things is embarrassing. Over-involved moms are the toxic ones.

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love all the moms whose kids get dropped from a friend group and place blame on all the other kids and not look at their own child. And they throw out queen b and mean girls to rationalize that your kid is “so innocent” but maybe your kid did some things or are nothing like the rest of the group. That the other moms forced the friendship and your kid had fake friends for years. And now they are sick of mom engineered friend-based groups and moving on.

My youngest is high maintenance. I knew once Girl Scouts and group activities would start falling off, her friendships would too. It sucked but I am not an idiot to know that my daughter isn’t the coolest to hang out with. She is immature, likes playing kid games, and is kinda loud. Most of the other girls stayed friends. My daughter eventually found her tribe and all was well. I would never ever ever place blame on other children and name call them like some of you nasty moms here. And I certainly wouldn’t let my daughter bad mouth anyone. I made her rise above. She is even friendly with 2 of them again now that they are in 8th grade and she has matured more to their level.

The throwing around bully, mean girls, and queen b on friendships that die once they can do their own things is embarrassing. Over-involved moms are the toxic ones.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta love all the moms whose kids get dropped from a friend group and place blame on all the other kids and not look at their own child. And they throw out queen b and mean girls to rationalize that your kid is “so innocent” but maybe your kid did some things or are nothing like the rest of the group. That the other moms forced the friendship and your kid had fake friends for years. And now they are sick of mom engineered friend-based groups and moving on.

My youngest is high maintenance. I knew once Girl Scouts and group activities would start falling off, her friendships would too. It sucked but I am not an idiot to know that my daughter isn’t the coolest to hang out with. She is immature, likes playing kid games, and is kinda loud. Most of the other girls stayed friends. My daughter eventually found her tribe and all was well. I would never ever ever place blame on other children and name call them like some of you nasty moms here. And I certainly wouldn’t let my daughter bad mouth anyone. I made her rise above. She is even friendly with 2 of them again now that they are in 8th grade and she has matured more to their level.

The throwing around bully, mean girls, and queen b on friendships that die once they can do their own things is embarrassing. Over-involved moms are the toxic ones.

Your parenting style is not one I would hold up as some exemplary style. Nor is your post one that demonstrates your ability to "rise above." I literally laughed when read that, given how judgy, smug, and bit---y your post is.

Anonymous wrote:My oldest is 8 and this thread has me terrified.