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Anonymous wrote:The more people said “abortion isn’t a motivating issue”, and “inflation is the biggest issue for voters”… as if having kids has nothing to do with your finances. I just felt more and more insulted.
I can’t have been the only one.

Inflation was the biggest issue— for old white male voters. Political pundits, on both sides is the aisle, are a bunch of older white guys talking to one another. People see the world through their own lens.


Every woman in the country who has ever been pregnant had to imagine themselves dying in an emergency room while some lawyers decided whether the doctor was allowed to save their life. Leaving their existing children motherless, their parents childless, their spouses widowed. A vanishingly small number of those women thought “but at least the gas for my hearse might be fractionally cheaper”.

+1000
My anti-abortion mother, who fell for the whole “dems want abortion legal up until birth” nonsense spouted by Republicans over the last few years, started singing a different tune when I reminded her of my lifesaving (and fertility-preserving, thankfully) medical abortion due to ectopic pregnancy and her own experience with incomplete miscarriage and infection when I was a young child. She never thought through the fact that overturning RvW would put lives at risk.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

They need to vote on this issue to protect their sons, too. I don’t want my son paying 18 years of child support because he and his girlfriend made a teenage mistake. That makes him unmarriageable to high value women and ruins his life too— not to the same extent as the women but there are no winners in restricting reproductive choices.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

no, to get the onboard is to force a vasectomy on them. You'd then see these men fighting against forced birth rather than forcing vasectomies on them. Hit them where it hurts.. their balls.

Or just, you know, shut them out. You can go over to the relationships board to see what a dead bedroom does to a man. Without sex, their self worth completely falls apart. Seems fitting for someone who would trade a few bucks for your life.

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Anonymous wrote:How can the catholic church be pressured to evolve on this issue? So many do not agree with their stances on reproductive issues. We need to stop donating money on Sunday until they stop promoting this anti reproductive rights agenda.

Stop calling us murders, stop telling us we can't pursue IVF, stop getting involved in these issues or we don't want to give money anymore.

My grandmother was very involved with her local church and never stopped helping them, but she stopped giving money after the sex abuse scandal broke. Yes, stop giving money to the institution that does and promotes such harmful things. Give your money instead to organizations that are fighting for your reproductive rights

+1. Don’t act like you don’t have choice or agency. The Catholic Church isn’t the only institution offering a way into Heaven. You have choices in where you spend your time and money and where you place your faith, and you should remind them of that.

+2 if you and your tithes are in the pews and your children and tuition are in the schools, you’re funding their attacks on women’s rights. Same with a dozen smaller churches, too, like the Baptists and weird little fundie churches. Stop giving them money; put the money where it will do good.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

Well, they aren't. These men are fine with how the Rs have restricted abortion access even for rape and medical conditions.

I've already stated numerous times that any man who thinks it's fine for his daughters/wives/sisters to have their rapists' babies or die due to complications from a miscarriage so that he could have low taxes is not a real man.

They will be fine with abortions in other states for the women in their lives. That's one of the reasons they were so mad at Lindsey Graham.

They'll restrict abortions in their own states to please their voters and stay in office. That's all they care about. Staying in office.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

no, to get the onboard is to force a vasectomy on them. You'd then see these men fighting against forced birth rather than forcing vasectomies on them. Hit them where it hurts.. their balls.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

Well, they aren't. These men are fine with how the Rs have restricted abortion access even for rape and medical conditions.

I've already stated numerous times that any man who thinks it's fine for his daughters/wives/sisters to have their rapists' babies or die due to complications from a miscarriage so that he could have low taxes is not a real man.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can the catholic church be pressured to evolve on this issue? So many do not agree with their stances on reproductive issues. We need to stop donating money on Sunday until they stop promoting this anti reproductive rights agenda.

Stop calling us murders, stop telling us we can't pursue IVF, stop getting involved in these issues or we don't want to give money anymore.

My grandmother was very involved with her local church and never stopped helping them, but she stopped giving money after the sex abuse scandal broke. Yes, stop giving money to the institution that does and promotes such harmful things. Give your money instead to organizations that are fighting for your reproductive rights

+1. Don’t act like you don’t have choice or agency. The Catholic Church isn’t the only institution offering a way into Heaven. You have choices in where you spend your time and money and where you place your faith, and you should remind them of that.

Anonymous wrote:I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

This is how to get men on board. They need to vote in this issue to protect their daughters, and daughters in law and sisters and aunts and cousins and friends and neighbors.

I don't even have a uterus anymore. What I care about are my daughters. Do not mess with my daughters, GOP.

Anonymous wrote: “but at least the gas for my hearse might be fractionally cheaper”.

Anonymous wrote:The more people said “abortion isn’t a motivating issue”, and “inflation is the biggest issue for voters”… as if having kids has nothing to do with your finances. I just felt more and more insulted.
I can’t have been the only one.

This, exactly. There is NO freedom without bodily autonomy. There is NO economic security without it, either.

Anonymous wrote:How can the catholic church be pressured to evolve on this issue? So many do not agree with their stances on reproductive issues. We need to stop donating money on Sunday until they stop promoting this anti reproductive rights agenda.

Stop calling us murders, stop telling us we can't pursue IVF, stop getting involved in these issues or we don't want to give money anymore.

My grandmother was very involved with her local church and never stopped helping them, but she stopped giving money after the sex abuse scandal broke. Yes, stop giving money to the institution that does and promotes such harmful things. Give your money instead to organizations that are fighting for your reproductive rights

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The more people said “abortion isn’t a motivating issue”, and “inflation is the biggest issue for voters”… as if having kids has nothing to do with your finances. I just felt more and more insulted.
I can’t have been the only one.

+1. I live in a state that clamped down HARD after Dobbs. To feel like a right that’s been around all my life has been stripped from me, and then to be told over and over “no one cares about that right, it’s stupid”… like, speak for yourself!

They knew people cared, they were trying to make people, particularly young women, feel uncertain in their own opinions and unsure of their own reality. Now the job is to *force* them to care.

We need to put our money and votes where they will count towards returning this right to women.