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Anonymous wrote:Received word of a meeting coming up highlighting some proposed changes to "class placement" for next year. Some of the bulleted items include:

1. Additional classroom for student receiving Level IV services (i.e. a 2nd AAP classroom)
2. Teachers 3-6th provide Level IV curriculum to ALL (yes, it was capitalized)
3. Specific differentiation to groups

the Why? Access and Opportunity to ALL students (again, capitalized)

Our school is local level IV and our child is already in AAP, so it shouldn't affect us. Just wondering if there are other ES's going the same route. I have heard from some parents that there are a multitude of kids designated as "Level III" but the AAP can't accommodate them all (the AART teacher has taken on the load), so maybe that's what's driving it?

It would be really great if they piloted an AAP for all where all kids were put into the highest AAP level in order to raise everyone up.

This would be fine if parents and school districts were willing to accept poor grades being assigned to poor performers. The reason people work to put their child in AAP is because the concerted efforts to make sure everyone passes and gets good grades has reduced the curriculums to a remedial crawl.

AAP is just normal education from 25 years ago plus advanced math. And parents who really care about their kids education put forth effort to ensure they get that education. Obviously many parents are happy with gened and those kids will turn out fine, but AAP is really a reflection of parents who just care more about kids learning as much as their kids can reasonably handle vs sitting and waiting. And thats not to be taken as an insult, just an opinion.

Ah yes, and those kids will turn out better than fine, which makes them better people. And that is the goal. To be able to have someone to look down on for being lazy followers who don't grab life by the horns and win, win, win!

Anonymous wrote:The biggest problem with AAP is the parents who are a-holes who raise entitled, bratty children who look down on their peers. I'm seeing it right here.

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Anonymous wrote:Received word of a meeting coming up highlighting some proposed changes to "class placement" for next year. Some of the bulleted items include:

1. Additional classroom for student receiving Level IV services (i.e. a 2nd AAP classroom)
2. Teachers 3-6th provide Level IV curriculum to ALL (yes, it was capitalized)
3. Specific differentiation to groups

the Why? Access and Opportunity to ALL students (again, capitalized)

Our school is local level IV and our child is already in AAP, so it shouldn't affect us. Just wondering if there are other ES's going the same route. I have heard from some parents that there are a multitude of kids designated as "Level III" but the AAP can't accommodate them all (the AART teacher has taken on the load), so maybe that's what's driving it?

It would be really great if they piloted an AAP for all where all kids were put into the highest AAP level in order to raise everyone up.

This would be fine if parents and school districts were willing to accept poor grades being assigned to poor performers. The reason people work to put their child in AAP is because the concerted efforts to make sure everyone passes and gets good grades has reduced the curriculums to a remedial crawl.

AAP is just normal education from 25 years ago plus advanced math. And parents who really care about their kids education put forth effort to ensure they get that education. Obviously many parents are happy with gened and those kids will turn out fine, but AAP is really a reflection of parents who just care more about kids learning as much as their kids can reasonably handle vs sitting and waiting. And thats not to be taken as an insult, just an opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Received word of a meeting coming up highlighting some proposed changes to "class placement" for next year. Some of the bulleted items include:

1. Additional classroom for student receiving Level IV services (i.e. a 2nd AAP classroom)
2. Teachers 3-6th provide Level IV curriculum to ALL (yes, it was capitalized)
3. Specific differentiation to groups

the Why? Access and Opportunity to ALL students (again, capitalized)

Our school is local level IV and our child is already in AAP, so it shouldn't affect us. Just wondering if there are other ES's going the same route. I have heard from some parents that there are a multitude of kids designated as "Level III" but the AAP can't accommodate them all (the AART teacher has taken on the load), so maybe that's what's driving it?

It would be really great if they piloted an AAP for all where all kids were put into the highest AAP level in order to raise everyone up.

This would be fine if parents and school districts were willing to accept poor grades being assigned to poor performers. The reason people work to put their child in AAP is because the concerted efforts to make sure everyone passes and gets good grades has reduced the curriculums to a remedial crawl.

AAP is just normal education from 25 years ago plus advanced math. And parents who really care about their kids education put forth effort to ensure they get that education. Obviously many parents are happy with gened and those kids will turn out fine, but AAP is really a reflection of parents who just care more about kids learning as much as their kids can reasonably handle vs sitting and waiting. And thats not to be taken as an insult, just an opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Received word of a meeting coming up highlighting some proposed changes to "class placement" for next year. Some of the bulleted items include:

1. Additional classroom for student receiving Level IV services (i.e. a 2nd AAP classroom)
2. Teachers 3-6th provide Level IV curriculum to ALL (yes, it was capitalized)
3. Specific differentiation to groups

the Why? Access and Opportunity to ALL students (again, capitalized)

Our school is local level IV and our child is already in AAP, so it shouldn't affect us. Just wondering if there are other ES's going the same route. I have heard from some parents that there are a multitude of kids designated as "Level III" but the AAP can't accommodate them all (the AART teacher has taken on the load), so maybe that's what's driving it?

It would be really great if they piloted an AAP for all where all kids were put into the highest AAP level in order to raise everyone up.

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Anonymous wrote:The standard in AAP isn't all that high. People need to get over it. Every kid in FCPS can and should be able to succeed in an AAP classroom. The notion that AAP is special is ridiculous. Let's stop watering down our school curriculums and push every kid towards excellence.

Every kid can't even succeed in gen ed. Come on. Let's meet kids where they are and gently push them to the upper levels of their abilities without throwing them into the deep end on their 2nd swim lesson.

They can't succeed in General Ed because it's very difficult for ONE teacher to teach effectively to a group of 30 8yr olds from all walks of life. Should the teacher have smaller class sizes and more support (sped or ESOL), I can guarantee that every student in FCPS could access the Level IV curriculum over time. The Level IV curriculum is really not all that different.

DP. Part of the point of AAP is that it's fast paced. Designed for kids who hear something once and then are ready to move on, who don't need a concept repeated and presented eight times.

Yes, the curriculum can be presented more slowly, with repetitions. But then it's gen ed and not AAP.

It's not all that fast paced.

Are you speaking from experience or assumption? I can assure you my DC's class moves at a much greater clip because the kids grasp the concepts faster.

From experience. I have two kids in FCPS. One in AAP and one not. The content does not move that much faster or go that much deeper. Math being the exception but even that, the standards are low.

Seems it varies by school.

And the school being discussed here is Shrevewood--in case you missed it. But I can almost posit the same is for all other schools. The peer group is what creates the challenge. NOT THE CURRICULUM.

No, it really varies by school. Not students.

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Anonymous wrote:The standard in AAP isn't all that high. People need to get over it. Every kid in FCPS can and should be able to succeed in an AAP classroom. The notion that AAP is special is ridiculous. Let's stop watering down our school curriculums and push every kid towards excellence.

Every kid can't even succeed in gen ed. Come on. Let's meet kids where they are and gently push them to the upper levels of their abilities without throwing them into the deep end on their 2nd swim lesson.

They can't succeed in General Ed because it's very difficult for ONE teacher to teach effectively to a group of 30 8yr olds from all walks of life. Should the teacher have smaller class sizes and more support (sped or ESOL), I can guarantee that every student in FCPS could access the Level IV curriculum over time. The Level IV curriculum is really not all that different.

DP. Part of the point of AAP is that it's fast paced. Designed for kids who hear something once and then are ready to move on, who don't need a concept repeated and presented eight times.

Yes, the curriculum can be presented more slowly, with repetitions. But then it's gen ed and not AAP.

It's not all that fast paced.

Are you speaking from experience or assumption? I can assure you my DC's class moves at a much greater clip because the kids grasp the concepts faster.

From experience. I have two kids in FCPS. One in AAP and one not. The content does not move that much faster or go that much deeper. Math being the exception but even that, the standards are low.

Seems it varies by school.

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Anonymous wrote:The standard in AAP isn't all that high. People need to get over it. Every kid in FCPS can and should be able to succeed in an AAP classroom. The notion that AAP is special is ridiculous. Let's stop watering down our school curriculums and push every kid towards excellence.

Every kid can't even succeed in gen ed. Come on. Let's meet kids where they are and gently push them to the upper levels of their abilities without throwing them into the deep end on their 2nd swim lesson.

They can't succeed in General Ed because it's very difficult for ONE teacher to teach effectively to a group of 30 8yr olds from all walks of life. Should the teacher have smaller class sizes and more support (sped or ESOL), I can guarantee that every student in FCPS could access the Level IV curriculum over time. The Level IV curriculum is really not all that different.

DP. Part of the point of AAP is that it's fast paced. Designed for kids who hear something once and then are ready to move on, who don't need a concept repeated and presented eight times.

Yes, the curriculum can be presented more slowly, with repetitions. But then it's gen ed and not AAP.

It's not all that fast paced.

Are you speaking from experience or assumption? I can assure you my DC's class moves at a much greater clip because the kids grasp the concepts faster.

From experience. I have two kids in FCPS. One in AAP and one not. The content does not move that much faster or go that much deeper. Math being the exception but even that, the standards are low.

Seems it varies by school.

And the school being discussed here is Shrevewood--in case you missed it. But I can almost posit the same is for all other schools. The peer group is what creates the challenge. NOT THE CURRICULUM.

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Anonymous wrote:The standard in AAP isn't all that high. People need to get over it. Every kid in FCPS can and should be able to succeed in an AAP classroom. The notion that AAP is special is ridiculous. Let's stop watering down our school curriculums and push every kid towards excellence.

Every kid can't even succeed in gen ed. Come on. Let's meet kids where they are and gently push them to the upper levels of their abilities without throwing them into the deep end on their 2nd swim lesson.

They can't succeed in General Ed because it's very difficult for ONE teacher to teach effectively to a group of 30 8yr olds from all walks of life. Should the teacher have smaller class sizes and more support (sped or ESOL), I can guarantee that every student in FCPS could access the Level IV curriculum over time. The Level IV curriculum is really not all that different.

DP. Part of the point of AAP is that it's fast paced. Designed for kids who hear something once and then are ready to move on, who don't need a concept repeated and presented eight times.

Yes, the curriculum can be presented more slowly, with repetitions. But then it's gen ed and not AAP.

It's not all that fast paced.

Are you speaking from experience or assumption? I can assure you my DC's class moves at a much greater clip because the kids grasp the concepts faster.

From experience. I have two kids in FCPS. One in AAP and one not. The content does not move that much faster or go that much deeper. Math being the exception but even that, the standards are low.

Seems it varies by school.

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Anonymous wrote:The standard in AAP isn't all that high. People need to get over it. Every kid in FCPS can and should be able to succeed in an AAP classroom. The notion that AAP is special is ridiculous. Let's stop watering down our school curriculums and push every kid towards excellence.

Every kid can't even succeed in gen ed. Come on. Let's meet kids where they are and gently push them to the upper levels of their abilities without throwing them into the deep end on their 2nd swim lesson.

They can't succeed in General Ed because it's very difficult for ONE teacher to teach effectively to a group of 30 8yr olds from all walks of life. Should the teacher have smaller class sizes and more support (sped or ESOL), I can guarantee that every student in FCPS could access the Level IV curriculum over time. The Level IV curriculum is really not all that different.

DP. Part of the point of AAP is that it's fast paced. Designed for kids who hear something once and then are ready to move on, who don't need a concept repeated and presented eight times.

Yes, the curriculum can be presented more slowly, with repetitions. But then it's gen ed and not AAP.

It's not all that fast paced.

Are you speaking from experience or assumption? I can assure you my DC's class moves at a much greater clip because the kids grasp the concepts faster.

From experience. I have two kids in FCPS. One in AAP and one not. The content does not move that much faster or go that much deeper. Math being the exception but even that, the standards are low.