Anonymous
10/21/2022 23:48
Subject: Re:Seriously with the book banning ?
Does anyone on dcum know someone personally impacted by all of this crazy book banning?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 22:34
Subject: Re:Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:It all makes sense once you accept that parental choice only applies to conservative parents.
It’s what they want and have been gunning for for years.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 16:29
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?
DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.
If you’re shocked, that’s on you. It’s literally what’s depicted in the book, hence why I’m mentioning it.
Yeah but you seem shocked by it. It’s one depiction and the context it’s in is awkwardness and a respectful relationship. Do you not want respect modeled for your kids? Just better that they watch whatever porn they and their friends find online? Which probably won’t be an asexual line drawing.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 15:51
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
It is not important for me to expose children to sexual content. It is important for me to offer a wide variety of reading materials to children of all ages. Some of those reading materials will have sexual content. Some will have difficult themes. It is important to me that one version of "sexual content" does not become the norm from which to start bans.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 15:48
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
Cutting off my kids' rights to have a wide range of literature not just books acceptable to the american taliban for sure offends me. And I am not alone.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 10:16
Subject: Re:Seriously with the book banning ?
Draconian laws just passed on Florida.
Teachers are emptying their classes of all books.
Great job, idiot Republicans!
Teachers are emptying their classes of all books.
Great job, idiot Republicans!
Anonymous
10/21/2022 09:05
Subject: Re:Seriously with the book banning ?
It all makes sense once you accept that parental choice only applies to conservative parents.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 09:01
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
My health class discussed oral sex. I don't recall a diagram but it was pretty obvious lol.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:54
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?
DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.
If you’re shocked, that’s on you. It’s literally what’s depicted in the book, hence why I’m mentioning it.
I’m not shocked. Just because you are trying to shock people doesn’t mean you’re succeeding. Teens know what blowjobs are. Any good sex ed program will teach about them so kids know what safe sex practices they should be following if they engage in them. Also, the scene you’re referring to doesn’t actually depict a blowjob, it’s simulated.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:49
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
Lol. Have you seen American tv and Hollywood films of the past 3 decades? Do you live in a bubble where teenagers know nothing at all about sex and don’t think about sexual attraction?
Private consumption controllable by parents.
And they can control what their kids check out of libraries. Same principle.
While that was the suggested compromise in Michigan, I don’t believe that’s an option locally. FCPS had a controversy over the same book and I think it was reinstated. I don’t believe parents can keep their kids from checking it out here.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:43
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?
DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.
If you’re shocked, that’s on you. It’s literally what’s depicted in the book, hence why I’m mentioning it.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:31
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?
DP. You seem really anxious to shock people with the term “blowjob.” It’s not that shocking.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:29
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Now you’re being ridiculous. What school did you go to where they showed videos of animals mating? And are the animals giving one another bl@wjobs at the zoo?
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:27
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
DP. Why do you feel the need to make bad faith arguments to support your position? Do you not have any meritorious ones?
How is that a bad faith argument? That’s literally the point of this discussion.
Do you want to ban nature videos from schools? Or ban kids from going to zoos, where they might be exposed - gasp - to sexual content during the mating season.
Anonymous
10/21/2022 08:25
Subject: Seriously with the book banning ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely troubled by children viewing pornography.
Any and all.
I can see where there is a time, age, and place for this.
Young people need to have a place that is safe to ask questions.
I would like to her from child psychologists on this.
It’s really weird that you keep calling it pornography, which the internet says is “printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.” I don’t look at that book and those images and think that’s erotic. What about a bundle of grass looks erotic to you?
There’s an image of a bl@wjob. Sorry, most people would consider that NSFW and not appropriate in school.
It’s a book. A comic book. FFS. Can guarantee most teenagers have seen way more explicit stuff
And what about sex ed. Do you want to ban images there? Are you the sort of parent who thinks non-reproductive sex shouldn’t be discussed in sex ed classes?
Clearly we’re not going to agree on this issue. I’d like to think, in the absence of an agreement, that typically one would err on the side of caution. If there is a significant segment of parents who don’t want sexual content available to kids in school, wouldn’t it make sense that it’s appropriate to not have these materials available? We eliminate Halloween celebrations, mentions of Christmas and Easter out of respect for different people’s religious viewpoints. Why is the same consideration not given for sexual content in schools?
No. I am afraid the default position cannot be that the conservative perspective wins in the absence of agreement.
It' not the "conservative perspective" rather the one that offends the fewest stakeholders.
I seem to remember conservatives squawking about how “nobody has a right to not be offended” every time Trump said something awful.
Why is it so important to you to expose children to sexual content?
Lol. Have you seen American tv and Hollywood films of the past 3 decades? Do you live in a bubble where teenagers know nothing at all about sex and don’t think about sexual attraction?
Private consumption controllable by parents.
And they can control what their kids check out of libraries. Same principle.