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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Franklin/Oakton would be a perfectly logical feeder pattern. Deal with it.

So would Crossfield/carson/western.

Yes it would and it is a possibility. No one is saying it isn't. But Crossfield/Carson/Oakton is not.

Crossfield/Carson/Western or
Crossfield/Franklin/Oakton

The RIO families and Crossfield/Carson/Oakton which is not doable.

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Franklin/Oakton would be a perfectly logical feeder pattern. Deal with it.

So would Crossfield/carson/western.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

The AAP kids and their parents have a major superiority complex. Exhibit A: the parent who stood up at a public meeting and claimed that the AAP kids are the reason that Carson and Oakton are so great.

Why is she wrong? Take out the top test scores and the average drops.

It's simple math l

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

The AAP kids and their parents have a major superiority complex. Exhibit A: the parent who stood up at a public meeting and claimed that the AAP kids are the reason that Carson and Oakton are so great.

Plenty of people like their middle and high schools. It’s kind of a truism to point out that the reputations of some schools derive heavily from their having a lot of AAP or former AAP kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

The AAP kids and their parents have a major superiority complex. Exhibit A: the parent who stood up at a public meeting and claimed that the AAP kids are the reason that Carson and Oakton are so great.

Crossfield/Franklin/Oakton would be a perfectly logical feeder pattern. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

Somebunny jealous.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

Awesome just in time for them to move my kid there. HILARIOUS b/c the RIO mommies are saying their babies who have been through construction at Crossfield shouldn't have to go through Construction at Western and now our little kids who have been through construction at Crossfield will have to deal with construction at Franklin if they have their way. But you know, if it doesn't impact their 7th and 8th graders, it doesn't matter. Those moms don't have kids currently in elementary school, they don't care about anyone except their snowflakes.

Cry me a river. Would you rather your schools go unrenovated?

Learn how to comprehend what you are reading, SWEETHEART. I just want my kids to stay zoned to Carson and go to Western/Skyview with the other kids in our community. I'm sorry you're jealous about something (I'm not sure what), but get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

As I said, my child was NOT AAP and got a great education at Carson. You can't just dismiss my own personal experiences with "whatever". There were no AAP kids in my kid's regular and Honors classes. We loved the school and are looking forward to our younger child going there.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

Awesome just in time for them to move my kid there. HILARIOUS b/c the RIO mommies are saying their babies who have been through construction at Crossfield shouldn't have to go through Construction at Western and now our little kids who have been through construction at Crossfield will have to deal with construction at Franklin if they have their way. But you know, if it doesn't impact their 7th and 8th graders, it doesn't matter. Those moms don't have kids currently in elementary school, they don't care about anyone except their snowflakes.

Cry me a river. Would you rather your schools go unrenovated?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

Whatever. All the superlatives about Carson regularly bandied about are based on getting so many AAP kids from Franklin.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

Awesome just in time for them to move my kid there. HILARIOUS b/c the RIO mommies are saying their babies who have been through construction at Crossfield shouldn't have to go through Construction at Western and now our little kids who have been through construction at Crossfield will have to deal with construction at Franklin if they have their way. But you know, if it doesn't impact their 7th and 8th graders, it doesn't matter. Those moms don't have kids currently in elementary school, they don't care about anyone except their snowflakes.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

I disagree. I have a child who was not AAP and had a fabulous education at Carson - the staff is great.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Why is that a problem? Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids!

It takes away opportunities from the schools they leave behind. There are fewer clubs and teams at the other schools when the motivated students (and their parents) are concentrated at one school. The same thing happens with kids leaving Lewis. It will never improve until they force a change.

There are plenty of kids at Franklin who could start the clubs they want that are at Carson and not Franklin.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to be really upset if the Oakton moms have their way and my child ends up being literally the only kids from Carson that go to Oakton.

They'll switch Crossfield to Franklin, I'm sure. But, Crossfield would be at new school if they used objective standards.

Ugh, I don't want my kids to go to Franklin. Carson is such a great school.

Franklin is slated to be renovated in 2029 according to the latest CIP. If they get rid of middle school centers so that Franklin has all the in-boundary kids that currently go to Carson it will be just as great of a school. Bring back those AAP kids and watch the test scores (and school rating) go up.
I still think Crossfield should stay at Carson and go to the new Western school - but if they stay at Oakton instead then it is only logical to move them to Franklin and Oak Hill to Carson. Such an easy way to fix part of the worst split feeder situation in the county.

All of this. Carson is artificially propped up by the exceptionally high number of AAP kids coming from other middle schools. Each middle school should have its own AAP program and bussing Franklin kids to Carson should stop. And when they finally set the boundaries for the new HS they should clean up the Carson /Franklin boundaries as well.

Franklin is super close to Carson, there cant be all that much of a savings

Putting AAP at every MS would be a county-wide decision, but you knew that. Carson may be close to Franklin, but the savings would add up.

Carson is the prime example, however, of an AAP middle school whose reputation is largely derived from kids with a different base school.

Why is that a problem? Sounds like a great opportunity for those kids!

Over the years, the overcrowded middle schools typically are AAP centers while the most under-enrolled middle schools don't have AAP.

We end up paying additional transportation costs that could be avoided if kids accessed AAP at their base schools.

It also leads to more high school pupil placements than would otherwise be the case, simply because kids want to stay with other kids from their middle school AAP centers. Again, that can distort enrollments (it's one reason, for example, why Lake Braddock has over 2900 9-12 students this year).

You get a brain drain out of some middle schools and hyper-competitive AAP centers like Carson, along with parents who toss around superlatives about their schools without acknowledging it's largely due to the large number of elementary schools funneling their AAP kids into certain middle schools.

The School Board appears to have concluded the costs outweigh the benefits; hence, they've directed Reid to come up with a plan to have AAP at each middle school. It can't be done without boundary changes, however, at some schools (Rocky Run and Thoreau immediately come to mind).