Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:16
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:I think the two big contributors here are going to turn out to be weed (I bet he already used a lot in his frat in college, then it got worse with the back pain, and I’m sure there was free flowing weed in his commune in Hawaii) and playing first person shooter games. Weed absolutely precipitates psychotic illness in kids this age (see here for example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33617756/). And growing up playing a lot of shooter games (it said several places that he was into them and at one point his goal was to develop his own) inured him to real life repercussions of shooting someone.
Yes, maybe to the weed, no to the video games. You probably don’t have college kids. They are frustrated with this country. People aren’t ready to kill, but there was so much attention on him because the environment is sh-t, there are people being needlessly killed across the globe, mental health isn’t funded (see UHC on this), and their quality of life will be worse than their parents (GenX). I’ve heard several kids say they don’t want to “bring kids into this world.” They didn’t want to vote (“feels pointless, it’s all theater”). Everything is so freaking expensive. We have a lot of problems in society that aren’t being addressed by either party because they’re so entrenched on drawing party lines. The millennials are about to have the biggest wealth transfer in history. GenZ is already, and knows they soon, bear the brunt of all of this.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:10
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:It's a bit strange to see progressive taking up for this guy when what largely precipitated this action was the dissonance between his heretofore very privileged existence and a health setback that gave him a little taste of bad fortune. He basically flipped out because he's had it so good and couldn't handle even a little bit of what broad swaths of the country endure for years on end. Ultimately, the animating factor of his action is entitlement and privilege.
You sound like you profit from healthcare.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:09
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is hot. Where is his GoFundMe?
He doesn't need one. His parents are loaded.
He seems like Jack Schlossberg (without the murder). Very attractive, too much privilege and money, everything easy, decides to take off and live in Hawaii and surf all day, because he's so rich he can.
You are inferring a lot. He was an engineer at TrueCar until 2023. Held demanding positions. He was a leader at Penn and Gilman. As others have said, it appears the surgery mucked him up.
Reportedly it was the surfing accident that affected his brain and subsequent behavior changes. The extensive back surgery and chronic pain led him to try questionable mind-altering medications that exacerbated the brain injury/mental breakdown.
Thing is, he clearly had access to surgery and meds and healthcare - through his employer?
Why the heck did he have a gun - if we had red flag laws someone could have prevented or delayed that
Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:04
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
He’s in the thick of it
Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:04
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fox News has a video of him being brought to the station. This article has some details about his arrest in the McDs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/local-pennsylvania-officer-hailed-hero-swift-actions-arrest-unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-suspect
If he had just handed them his real ID, would they have needed a warrant to search his bag?
Maybe? I’m not sure if they had his real name known prior to arrest. But we do know they had the fake name he used to check into the hostel. It was super dumb to present that ID. And of course the police are going to run it. Especially when the call to report him was literally “the guy looks like the NYC CEO murder suspect.” It wasn’t a spontaneous police encounter
Anonymous
12/10/2024 08:02
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So basically it came down to him flirting with the hostel worker.
More to NYC cabs having really good cameras.
The smiling picture from the hostel was not really helpful in identifying him.
I don’t get why he looked directly at the camera.
I don’t think it was on purpose, that was probably just him noticing the camera. He looked terrified in that picture.
Uh, he was clearly looking at it. The driver was on the other side. It seemed intentional. Maybe he wanted to get caught, who knows.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:57
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming the health insurance companies and not the hospitals and their ridiculous charges? Why not blame the doctors who are like “well I could save your life but we’re gonna need $60K to do it.”
It doesn’t make sense.
You don't sound like you are in the healthcare business to be throwing out random figures of who makes what.
DP but I haven’t heard of many doctors making $10M + per year.
Plastic surgeon
Only cosmetic plastic surgeons in maybe Beverly Hills or NYC. But their patients are paying out of pocket for elective procedures. Irrelevant to this discussion
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:56
Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
In case you are one of those who are morally confused:
Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione
Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:55
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Wait until someone realizes who's the ultimate responsible for Obamacare.
Obamacare, like the legislation that allowed millions of Americans to access healthcare and added protections to keep predatory insurance companies from denying coverage for preexisting conditions? Yes, just wait until people find out “who’s the ultimate responsible” for that.
+1. Prior to Obamacare I couldn’t get proper coverage. People don’t understand what denial of pre-existing conditions meant for many people. For example, say years earlier a benign cyst was found in your breast. This is a finding that is fairly common. The insurance company would offer a policy that would not cover any issues related to your breasts for a period of years. Sound good? I knew people who were stuck in their very stressful jobs for fear of losing insurance coverage due to pre-existing conditions. Republicans have done their best to kill the Affordable Care Act which has weakened it but it’s still better than the options we had before.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:54
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Fox News has a video of him being brought to the station. This article has some details about his arrest in the McDs
https://www.foxnews.com/us/local-pennsylvania-officer-hailed-hero-swift-actions-arrest-unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-suspect
If he had just handed them his real ID, would they have needed a warrant to search his bag?
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:49
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He is hot. Where is his GoFundMe?
He doesn't need one. His parents are loaded.
He seems like Jack Schlossberg (without the murder). Very attractive, too much privilege and money, everything easy, decides to take off and live in Hawaii and surf all day, because he's so rich he can.
You are inferring a lot. He was an engineer at TrueCar until 2023. Held demanding positions. He was a leader at Penn and Gilman. As others have said, it appears the surgery mucked him up.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:45
Subject: Re:UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Is there any word on how Chuck Mangione fits into to all this? TIA
Distant relative? He performed at a family event.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:30
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the two big contributors here are going to turn out to be weed (I bet he already used a lot in his frat in college, then it got worse with the back pain, and I’m sure there was free flowing weed in his commune in Hawaii) and playing first person shooter games. Weed absolutely precipitates psychotic illness in kids this age (see here for example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33617756/). And growing up playing a lot of shooter games (it said several places that he was into them and at one point his goal was to develop his own) inured him to real life repercussions of shooting someone.
I don’t necessarily agree with you about weed but he was in a fraternity (Phi Kappa Psi) and was definitely playing shooter games.
Oh yes, that dangerous “assassin” game…Among Us 😂
hahaha my 8 year old played that game for awhile.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 07:25
Subject: UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The various social media companies pulled his FB, IG, LinkedIn, YouTube accounts. Do they typically shut down accounts of people arrested on relatively minor violations yet suspected in a more serious crime? Or, just this guy?
Just him is seems. And the unanimous nature of it is very intriguing.
Yes, Meta owns several of those so makes sense that they will go dark at the same time but not the others.
Hmm. Billionaires and the felon aren’t going to be happy with his thoughts, especially if he really did write this:
“No single document better encapsulates the belief that all people are equal in fundamental worth and moral status and the frameworks for fostering collective well-being than the US constitution.
Writing a rule down makes it into a law. I don’t give a f&ck about the law. Law means nothing. What does matter is following the guidance of our own logic and what we learn from those before us to maximize our own well-being, which will then maximize the well-being of our loved ones and community.
That’s where UnitedHealthcare went wrong. They violated their contract with my mother, with me, and tens of millions of other Americans. This threat to my own health, my family’s health, and the health of our country’s people requires me to respond with an act of war.“
If he did write this, it’s a very Randiab point of view. Not sure why conservatives are calling him a “leftist.” This is modern conservative thought brought to life