Anonymous
08/02/2023 13:26
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
I don't think many people get the significance of Russia shooting down Storm Shadow missiles. They are small, stealthy and fast. If they can be shot down, what does it mean for aircraft?
Kinda like how the Patriots shot down the far faster hypersonic missiles?
Anonymous
08/02/2023 13:02
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
Russia "adapts" but only after first incurring huge losses. And all the while, the Ukrainian side continues to adapt and incur yet more losses on Russia.
LOL you make it sound like Ukraine incurs no losses in the meantime. That's the missing element in the Ukrainian war discourse. The Ukrainian losses and casualty rate.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 13:00
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Nearly half of Ukrainians held in detention centers in Kherson by Russian forces were subjected to widespread torture including sexual violence, according to a new report published Wednesday.
The report, compiled by the Mobile Justice Team, part of the UK, EU and US-sponsored Atrocity Crimes Advisory Group (ACA), and was set up by international human rights law firm and foundation, Global Rights Compliance, in April 2022, and is led by world-renowned British Barrister, Wayne Jordash KC. The team’s work is primarily funded by the EU.
Torture and sexual violence by Russian forces: At least 36 victims from the pool analyzed mentioned the use of electrocution during interrogations, often genital electrocution by Russian guards. Other victims mentioned threats of genital mutilation, and at least one victim was forced to witness the rape of another detainee by a foreign object covered in a condom."
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-02-23/index.html
Here's one thing in which Russian soldiers are actually seasoned and competent.
Lol whatever works, Abu Ghraib.
Every defense of Russia boils down to ‘whaddabout’. It’s so compelling.
It is exposing you as a hypocrite.
NP. Not really.
It’s exposing you as a propagandist, and a second-rate one at that.
You should travel more. Every time a non-American, non-European person hears American or European pontification about the evils of invading other countries or human rights, they roll their eyes. Very, very deeply. Almost disappearing into the skull.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:58
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?
The answer is probably no at this point. A year ago, probably.
Disagree. If there's enough Putin-Lukashenka-Wagner stupidity to have Belarus start a war with Poland then yes, NATO will become more engaged.
Can NATO escalate things? Sure! Can they just throw their weight around and end the conflict (presumably with 1991 borders) in relatively short order? No, absolutely not. Russia is just too dug in, with too much time to ramp up their defense industry. NATO can't just use air power and an expeditionary force to win. A year ago, they might have been able to. Now they would have to commit far too much to not telegraph the buildup months in advance.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:54
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?
NATO is too afraid of losing soldiers to intervene directly. A bunch of cowards.
If you’re just going to troll, at least make an attempt at appearing credible.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:53
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
I don't think many people get the significance of Russia shooting down Storm Shadow missiles. They are small, stealthy and fast. If they can be shot down, what does it mean for aircraft?
These articles don’t say anything about Russia shooting down storm shadow missiles.
They say it without saying it, if you know how to read these things: "But since Ukraine began using the missiles in mid-May, "we've not seen tremendous impact on the Russian force," Kofman said, "and part the reason for that is the adaptations in the Russian military that were caused by the introduction of HIMARS last June."
The clunky sentence mixing events from two different weapon systems and two different years is the give away. What adaptations did Russia make to deal with HIMARS last June, that was not of use mid-May, but is now? The most likely answer is a reference to the firmware upgrades made/being made to Russian air defense systems. They now have the "profile" of a Storm Shadow.
There are some good deep dives out there going into the details if you are truly interested.
They are just moving stuff out of range of the missiles. That is by itself helpful to the Ukrainians because it lengthens supply lines and makes logistics more difficult for the Russians.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:51
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
I don't think many people get the significance of Russia shooting down Storm Shadow missiles. They are small, stealthy and fast. If they can be shot down, what does it mean for aircraft?
These articles don’t say anything about Russia shooting down storm shadow missiles.
They say it without saying it, if you know how to read these things: "But since Ukraine began using the missiles in mid-May, "we've not seen tremendous impact on the Russian force," Kofman said, "and part the reason for that is the adaptations in the Russian military that were caused by the introduction of HIMARS last June."
The clunky sentence mixing events from two different weapon systems and two different years is the give away. What adaptations did Russia make to deal with HIMARS last June, that was not of use mid-May, but is now? The most likely answer is a reference to the firmware upgrades made/being made to Russian air defense systems. They now have the "profile" of a Storm Shadow.
There are some good deep dives out there going into the details if you are truly interested.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:51
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?
NATO is too afraid of losing soldiers to intervene directly. A bunch of cowards.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:51
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Nearly half of Ukrainians held in detention centers in Kherson by Russian forces were subjected to widespread torture including sexual violence, according to a new report published Wednesday.
The report, compiled by the Mobile Justice Team, part of the UK, EU and US-sponsored Atrocity Crimes Advisory Group (ACA), and was set up by international human rights law firm and foundation, Global Rights Compliance, in April 2022, and is led by world-renowned British Barrister, Wayne Jordash KC. The team’s work is primarily funded by the EU.
Torture and sexual violence by Russian forces: At least 36 victims from the pool analyzed mentioned the use of electrocution during interrogations, often genital electrocution by Russian guards. Other victims mentioned threats of genital mutilation, and at least one victim was forced to witness the rape of another detainee by a foreign object covered in a condom."
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-02-23/index.html
Here's one thing in which Russian soldiers are actually seasoned and competent.
Lol whatever works, Abu Ghraib.
Every defense of Russia boils down to ‘whaddabout’. It’s so compelling.
It is exposing you as a hypocrite.
NP. Not really.
It’s exposing you as a propagandist, and a second-rate one at that.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:43
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Nearly half of Ukrainians held in detention centers in Kherson by Russian forces were subjected to widespread torture including sexual violence, according to a new report published Wednesday.
The report, compiled by the Mobile Justice Team, part of the UK, EU and US-sponsored Atrocity Crimes Advisory Group (ACA), and was set up by international human rights law firm and foundation, Global Rights Compliance, in April 2022, and is led by world-renowned British Barrister, Wayne Jordash KC. The team’s work is primarily funded by the EU.
Torture and sexual violence by Russian forces: At least 36 victims from the pool analyzed mentioned the use of electrocution during interrogations, often genital electrocution by Russian guards. Other victims mentioned threats of genital mutilation, and at least one victim was forced to witness the rape of another detainee by a foreign object covered in a condom."
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-02-23/index.html
Here's one thing in which Russian soldiers are actually seasoned and competent.
Lol whatever works, Abu Ghraib.
Every defense of Russia boils down to ‘whaddabout’. It’s so compelling.
It is exposing you as a hypocrite.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:41
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?
The answer is probably no at this point. A year ago, probably.
Disagree. If there's enough Putin-Lukashenka-Wagner stupidity to have Belarus start a war with Poland then yes, NATO will become more engaged.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:39
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
Russia "adapts" but only after first incurring huge losses. And all the while, the Ukrainian side continues to adapt and incur yet more losses on Russia.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:38
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?
The answer is probably no at this point. A year ago, probably.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:34
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Russia adapting to western weapons, is not good for the west.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-defenses-ukraine-effective-mines-drones-experts-2023-8
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-storm-shadow-effective-long-range-missile-but-russia-adapts-2023-7?r=US&IR=T
First it was drones and then HIMARS. With depressing regularity, a new wonder weapon has been touted as a game changer for Ukraine only for its luster to dim as Russia adapts to it.
I don't think many people get the significance of Russia shooting down Storm Shadow missiles. They are small, stealthy and fast. If they can be shot down, what does it mean for aircraft?
These articles don’t say anything about Russia shooting down storm shadow missiles.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:14
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Can’t NATO intervene already and finish this f@ckery?