Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 10:27     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.


No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.

The Dems are definitely showing out today


Showing out for what? A dismal return on most elections.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:26     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


I'm not a Democrat and no, those don't have anything to do with Virginia and education. But PP said that he has accomplished nothing, and that's incorrect. I was pointing that out.


How about I rephrase, he's accomplished nothing that that he can remotely call an accomplishment without inducing laughter. He's accomplished nothing that democrats can run on in 2022. He's accomplished nothing that he will be able to run on in 2024. He may not get a single piece of legislation that he can call an accomplishment. Trump got a massive reworking of the tax code. Obama got the ACA. Even Clinton was able to get legislation passed with Newt running congress.


Okay. You don't have to like foreign policy. Lots of people don't.


I can't wait to see the campaign ads. Will the include happy families in peaceful Taliban controlled Kabul? Trump absolutely screwed him by negotiating the peace and releasing the Taliban prisoners, but Biden executed as badly as possible right down to the final drone strike taking out an aid worker and his family.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:23     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.


They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.


I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.


So you’re pissed at FCPS?



I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.


Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.


I agree.


Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.


+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.


Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?



So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?



Are you kidding?? Yes. I see we have a very succinct illustration of why Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot.

They just don’t get it. It’s not coddling to refrain from labeling every person who agrees with some Republican ideas as a racist or uneducated.


Disagreeing doesn't mean you're uneducated, no. However, when given specific, cited examples of how your disagreeing idea is untrue and still believing it anyway... well, that's being uneducated in my book.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:22     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


I'm not a Democrat and no, those don't have anything to do with Virginia and education. But PP said that he has accomplished nothing, and that's incorrect. I was pointing that out.


How about I rephrase, he's accomplished nothing that that he can remotely call an accomplishment without inducing laughter. He's accomplished nothing that democrats can run on in 2022. He's accomplished nothing that he will be able to run on in 2024. He may not get a single piece of legislation that he can call an accomplishment. Trump got a massive reworking of the tax code. Obama got the ACA. Even Clinton was able to get legislation passed with Newt running congress.


Okay. You don't have to like foreign policy. Lots of people don't.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:22     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


Yeah, I keep seeing news stories about how things are so bad that Afghan families are selling their young daughters. Not a good look. Also let me know if there's a place I can donate that's helping these families so they don't have to do that.

DP.. majority of Americans wanted the US to pullout. I'm not sure what you thought would happen


That’s not the point. The way he did it was a disaster.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:21     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.


No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.


OMG MY KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING CRT. PROMISE KEPT. WOW
on DAY 1 he banned CRT.


The levels of stupid to this post are astounding.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:20     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


I'm not a Democrat and no, those don't have anything to do with Virginia and education. But PP said that he has accomplished nothing, and that's incorrect. I was pointing that out.


How about I rephrase, he's accomplished nothing that that he can remotely call an accomplishment without inducing laughter. He's accomplished nothing that democrats can run on in 2022. He's accomplished nothing that he will be able to run on in 2024. He may not get a single piece of legislation that he can call an accomplishment. Trump got a massive reworking of the tax code. Obama got the ACA. Even Clinton was able to get legislation passed with Newt running congress.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:19     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.


No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.

The Dems are definitely showing out today
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 10:18     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to not live in VA, poor N VA is stuck with Kentucky politics.


While you are stuck with Kentucky population

DP ? MD has a moderate, Trump hating R governor. VA has a Trump lover for a governor.

The "Kentucky" population is tiny in MD and wants to join WVA. VA has a Trump lover leading the state, so it appears that there are more "Kentucky population" in VA than MD.


Well there are larger pockets of Kentucky population in Baltimore. That’s why the Western counties want to leave. Annapolis is trying to shift Baltimore to Western Maryland.


? not doubting that there are those in MD, but it seems VA has even more. Hence why Youngkin won. Also, I guess your definition of KY population is "black people"?



No poor people. But leave it to a Dem to make racist inferences.

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Post 11/03/2021 10:18     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


Yeah, I keep seeing news stories about how things are so bad that Afghan families are selling their young daughters. Not a good look. Also let me know if there's a place I can donate that's helping these families so they don't have to do that.

DP.. majority of Americans wanted the US to pullout. I'm not sure what you thought would happen
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Post 11/03/2021 10:17     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.


No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.


OMG MY KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING CRT. PROMISE KEPT. WOW
on DAY 1 he banned CRT.
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Post 11/03/2021 10:16     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


Yeah, I keep seeing news stories about how things are so bad that Afghan families are selling their young daughters. Not a good look. Also let me know if there's a place I can donate that's helping these families so they don't have to do that.
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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.


They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.


I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.


So you’re pissed at FCPS?



I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.


Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.


I agree.


Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.


+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.


Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?



So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?



Are you kidding?? Yes. I see we have a very succinct illustration of why Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot.

They just don’t get it. It’s not coddling to refrain from labeling every person who agrees with some Republican ideas as a racist or uneducated.


Yeah I mean absolutely the way to win voters is to coddle them and tell them what they want to hear!!

Agree DS forgot that the margin is narrow and a lot of the NoVa voters are pretty moderate, not super left. There were a lot of things that felt personal and close to home re schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 10:13     Subject: Consolidated VA Elections Thread

Anonymous wrote:57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.


No, we're smart. And we care about our kids more than your progressive agenda.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 10:12     Subject: Re:Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.


You still don't get it, do you?



Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.


There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.


There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress


DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.


I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.


I'm not a Democrat and no, those don't have anything to do with Virginia and education. But PP said that he has accomplished nothing, and that's incorrect. I was pointing that out.