Idiots saying colleges ONLY look at the top 20 clubs....who believes that? If that were true then no one would go and no one from any other club would be recruited. D has played in the Champions Cup loser bracket when her team was invited. 30 plus coaches at each game. Some not top D1s but still some good schools. Even so, there are over 1000 NCAA womens programs, 360ish just in D1. They can't all recruit from the same 20 teams.

For the 19s, most aren't in 11th, they are in 12th and just graduated. Aside from a last shot at a national title why would anyone spend the money to go to CA again?

ECNL had to promote this year and try to bring in more RL teams. With a war of attrition the league who holds the most mid to upper level clubs will win in the end. ECNL had a monopoly as the only place but has lost 30-40% of their placements over the last 6 years. In the next 5 I'd bet on ECNL merging with GA under NWSLnext. I won't be around though, so have fun with that.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of college coaches to ECNL and GA events/showcases in 2025 will not change much. In 2027 when the 2012 year is just beginning to be scouted you will see a substantial shift to GA, legacy alone will not keep ECNL’s position at the top.

We need to look at GA versus ECNL through a BY/SY lens. It looks a lot different for 2012 than it does for 2008.

Confident in their position, GA can take the time to build their league the right way similar to the way the MLS did in the early years, slow and steady making sure the foundation is strong and the partnerships solid.

I really like this for you. The GA class of 2012!

I think this is what a lot of people have been saying here from the start, no? For 2012 and younger GA is going to be a better option.

And you should continue thinking that. I have a bridge for you too…

Any argument to support your side or is this just your anonymous “trust me”. Please share your theory with how the next few years will play out.

Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

Look at the clubs going, GA NC is missing every top 2-3 clubs from every conference since most of them were in California and Florida already. ECNLs list would look the same if you had mostly none playoff level clubs going. Or do you think a showcase headlining playing levels like MF, White, and South would have a major draw?

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Anonymous wrote:The number of college coaches to ECNL and GA events/showcases in 2025 will not change much. In 2027 when the 2012 year is just beginning to be scouted you will see a substantial shift to GA, legacy alone will not keep ECNL’s position at the top.

We need to look at GA versus ECNL through a BY/SY lens. It looks a lot different for 2012 than it does for 2008.

Confident in their position, GA can take the time to build their league the right way similar to the way the MLS did in the early years, slow and steady making sure the foundation is strong and the partnerships solid.

I really like this for you. The GA class of 2012!

I think this is what a lot of people have been saying here from the start, no? For 2012 and younger GA is going to be a better option.

And you should continue thinking that. I have a bridge for you too…

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Anonymous wrote:Looking strong in the short term, but if ECNL was a stock it would not be a smart future’s play.

Buy the new stock from the same company that rugged DA.

Some people never learn.

MLS rigged DA? Please do tell.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of college coaches to ECNL and GA events/showcases in 2025 will not change much. In 2027 when the 2012 year is just beginning to be scouted you will see a substantial shift to GA, legacy alone will not keep ECNL’s position at the top.

We need to look at GA versus ECNL through a BY/SY lens. It looks a lot different for 2012 than it does for 2008.

Confident in their position, GA can take the time to build their league the right way similar to the way the MLS did in the early years, slow and steady making sure the foundation is strong and the partnerships solid.

I really like this for you. The GA class of 2012!

I think this is what a lot of people have been saying here from the start, no? For 2012 and younger GA is going to be a better option.

I really liked how my ecnl hat fit. Now I need a new hat.

I saw a mythical ECNL hat on a coach at a low level tournament this past weekend. By the time I had my phone out he had slipped away.

Anonymous wrote:Looking strong in the short term, but if ECNL was a stock it would not be a smart future’s play.

Buy the new stock from the same company that rugged DA.

Some people never learn.

Anonymous wrote:The number of college coaches to ECNL and GA events/showcases in 2025 will not change much. In 2027 when the 2012 year is just beginning to be scouted you will see a substantial shift to GA, legacy alone will not keep ECNL’s position at the top.

We need to look at GA versus ECNL through a BY/SY lens. It looks a lot different for 2012 than it does for 2008.

Confident in their position, GA can take the time to build their league the right way similar to the way the MLS did in the early years, slow and steady making sure the foundation is strong and the partnerships solid.

I really like this for you. The GA class of 2012!

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Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

no reason for coaches to go to GA tournaments. if they do, they usually send assistants. Champions Cup and Playoffs are the only place college coaches should go to and it shows. everything else is just a waste of their time.

My kid played at champions cup and the rumor going around was that recruiters were impressed by what they saw and were planning to attend more GA events. But maybe they always say that kind of thing.

You obviously have an agenda but what's the difference if recruiters go to an ECNL event but only watch/scout the top teams. Or if recruiters go to a GA event with only the top clubs playing? It's the same thing!

I'll take things that didn't happen for $100. GA tournaments are not good. period. hat is why there is low turnout and the GA only has 3 tournaments and the summer tournament doesn't even invite the oldest age group. CAUSE coaches don't come. 20 top teams is all they go watch for recruiting seriously. it's that simple. stop sugar coating it. the December tournament, ga's biggest tournament will start getting less and less coaches.

Why would GA put resources into the oldest age group? If you're not engaged with a recruiter by that time it's not going to happen.

I also like how you use leading words and innuendo to be negative about GA. The truth is that attendance players, coaches, scouts, etc has increased every year since GA was founded.

Since you like to play the one up game I'll make sure videos of GA teams playing international teams at MLSNs Generation Adidas Cup get posted.

The GA all star teams?

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Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

Not equivalent events.

The ECNL event in Phoenix included ALL clubs from the west coast and all over the nation.

The GA North Carolina event had teams from around the nation but the top clubs from each regional league played in Champions Cup in Florida last month + didn't attend.

Not all of the top ECNL clubs attended Phoenix. Small number. DD’s team didn’t go. I need a new ECNL hat!

Haha, I liked the new ECNL hat comment.

I'm thinking about printing up a bunch of ECNL hats and selling them outside the next ECNL event. I bet I could make a grand in a day.

definitely! with triple the amount of attendance at ECNL events, you would definitely have more customers to buy

For sure!! With a greater number of has been and never was parents trying to live their dreams through their daughters, so many hats would get purchased!

"Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile."

Looking strong in the short term, but if ECNL was a stock it would not be a smart future’s play.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:forget about trolling GA clubs as being tier 2/3 soccer (low hanging fruit). Let's talk about national events and recruiting. ECNL Phoenix last weekend steeling all the GA NC thunder this weekend. Pull both attending lists and compare. List for GA event this weekend looks like an RL playoff attending list. Pretty clear the top institutions, when having to chose which weekend to attend, all chose ECNL Phoenix to see the top talent in the country compete. The ga continues to look like the old bankrupt league they used to be. Only a matter of time before they file again.

Not equivalent events.

The ECNL event in Phoenix included ALL clubs from the west coast and all over the nation.

The GA North Carolina event had teams from around the nation but the top clubs from each regional league played in Champions Cup in Florida last month + didn't attend.

Not all of the top ECNL clubs attended Phoenix. Small number. DD’s team didn’t go. I need a new ECNL hat!

Haha, I liked the new ECNL hat comment.

I'm thinking about printing up a bunch of ECNL hats and selling them outside the next ECNL event. I bet I could make a grand in a day.

definitely! with triple the amount of attendance at ECNL events, you would definitely have more customers to buy

I agree with this ^