Anonymous wrote:This has NOTHING to do with abortion and 100% to do with the privacy rights that ARE guaranteed by our constitution.
Women want to give birth at home. Homebirths can be banned. It's not in the constitution, right?
Women want to have large families. Large families can be banned. It's not in the constitution, right?
Women want to then homeschool their children. Homeschooling can be banned. It's not in the constitution, right?
Women have PRIVACY rights, the rights to decide when and how they want to have their children and raise their children.
Make no mistake. This is an attack on ALL women -- women who are pro abortion, women who are anti choice. It really makes NO difference. If you are in favor of women having children and having families and raising those families the way that you think that they should be raised, then be VERY scared of this opinion. It is taking away YOUR rights too. It has NOTHING to do with abortion at all. It states specifically that women have NO fundament rights at all unless they are specifically guaranteed by the constitution.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whole sacred talk is awash in religion and we are not a theocracy. My religion does not teach that a fertilized egg is sacred, so keep your laws off my body.
You know perfectly well that many abortions occur when the developing child is far more than a fertilized egg. Your terminology makes it easier for women to view babies as disposable and abort them.
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Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Life is sacred. It's why people are disturbed and saddened to think that over 60 MILLION developing babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade.
And what about the mothers who will die within to access to medical care? Just burn it all down right? It’s insane. You are insane. Roe balances these interests, Dobbs enslaved women to the state.
Most of those 60 million babies were not aborted because their mothers couldn't access medical care.
Anonymous wrote:The whole sacred talk is awash in religion and we are not a theocracy. My religion does not teach that a fertilized egg is sacred, so keep your laws off my body.
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Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Life is sacred. It's why people are disturbed and saddened to think that over 60 MILLION developing babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Life is sacred. It's why people are disturbed and saddened to think that over 60 MILLION developing babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Life is sacred. It's why people are disturbed and saddened to think that over 60 MILLION developing babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade.
Why do 50-90% of all conceptions fail to make it to birth if life is so sacred from the moment of fertilization? Please answer that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Improchoice and do have an issue with people having abortions later in pregnancy for things other than complications with the fetus or the mother's health. The problem becomes once you start restricting things and adding more hoops for people to jump through, doctors are reluctant to provide the care that people need in a timely manner for being sued or prosecuted. That's not good for the woman, the family, the city state or the United States. We need to trust medical professionals and allow people the autonomy to make those decisions. Looking at the facts third trimester abortions are rarely done for fun. So to argue that we don't want women just to wake up one day and be sick of being pregnant and go get an abortion. That's just not something that the facts support is happening. So I don't understand why we're putting so much weight on that I guess
The fact of the matter is that people who are having late term abortions are not doing it for sh*ts and grins. These are people who have bought furniture, painted rooms, dreamed of names etc and then are faced with a horrific choice.
No one carries a fetus for 6 months and then decides, nah, I don't want it.
“No one”. There you have it. The omniscient forum poster has spoken. We should all believe them.
It is extremely rare, yes. But it’s definitely not “no one.” This woman aborted her healthy 7-month fetus. The mother’s life/health also were not in danger.
“ Vial was 22 at the time. She had recently ended her relationship and said she was sure she did not want to continue the pregnancy.
"I was already having a tough time in my life in a lot of other ways and it just felt like one more thing I really couldn't bear, or provide for, and I was panicked, I guess," Vial said.
Vial found a clinic in New Mexico that told her they would end her pregnancy up until 28 weeks — the beginning of the third trimester.
She scrambled, with the help of family, friends and a nonprofit that helps women pay for abortions, to pull together the fee of more than $10,000.
"[There were] a lot of people telling me how they felt about my situation without me asking — friends, family, strangers," Vial said. "I mean, you tell someone that you're seven months pregnant and having an abortion, they've got some things to say."
"People I thought were my friends made it clear to me that they disapproved," she said. "And that's fine. It wasn't changing my mind."”
Source: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718546468/opponents-fight-efforts-to-protect-late-term-abortion-rights
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Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Unless the baby is guilty you don't execute
What about a fetus?
It's a growing baby with your family's DNA.
And I guess the mother’s body is just a vessel that she has no control over right?
I've never thought of a mother as just a vessel and a growing baby as just a fetus Do you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Life is sacred. It's why people are disturbed and saddened to think that over 60 MILLION developing babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade.