Anonymous
03/10/2022 11:09
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.
Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.
Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.
It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.
What point are you trying to make? I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to limit people’s access to life-saving drugs.
What’s so hard to understand? Those companies don’t make drugs for Russian consumption. Russia getting cheap drugs from India.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:56
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.
Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.
Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.
It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.
What point are you trying to make? I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to limit people’s access to life-saving drugs.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:54
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.
Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.
Not sure about your husband's medication, but many drugs are made in India and available in other countries for pennies on the dollar. It's not an equivalent of a drug, it's the same brand and maker., they simply aren't available in the US at those prices because Big Pharma uses US consumers as it's wallet.
It's a particularly specialized and/or very expensive drug produced in the West, most Russians simply don't have access to it now.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:48
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Russia’s economy is about the size of Texas’s economy.
Real big banks are not going to waste time with high risk small markets.
Then why were they there in the first place?
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:45
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Russia’s economy is about the size of Texas’s economy.
Real big banks are not going to waste time with high risk small markets.
Real big banks are not going to waste time with high risk small markets.
Anonymous
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:35
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.
Why would you assume that? Big Pharma is evil, but they do provide life saving drugs. If we lived in Russia and Biogen pulled out, my husband wouldn’t be able to get his MS medication. There’s no cheap equivalent we can buy from India.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:33
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
There is a difference between medicine and other humanitarian goods made available in a country and a for profit Pharma company operating there. Anyways i assume they get their medicine for India at deeply discounted prices.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:30
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Like I said in the thread you started: humanitarian goods, like drugs, need to stay in the country.
Similarly, banks that provide retail operations need to stay, so that people can access their bank accounts.
Try to consider this with a bit of nuance.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:28
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Desiring pharma to pull out of Russia and Belarus is bizarre. There's no reasonable justification for that idea. Just bizarre.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:18
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
When the big banks pull out it's a very strong signal that doing business in Russia is not worth the risk. They are not doing this because of solidarity with Ukraine. Also, the big banks have close ties with the political leadership and i assume a good grasp of where things are headed.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 10:11
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous
Anonymous
03/10/2022 08:08
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Biden once vote against star wars missile defense?
Yes. As Robert Gates famously said, "Biden has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy issue and national security issue over the past four decades." Unfortunately, he is the commander in chief at a time we need someone who gets foreign policy correct.
Throughout his career, Mr. Biden has consistently opposed modernization of our strategic nuclear forces. He was a fierce opponent of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative. Mr. Biden voted against funding SDI, saying, "The president's continued adherence to [SDI] constitutes one of the most reckless and irresponsible acts in the history of modern statecraft." Mr. Biden has remained a consistent critic of missile defense and even opposed the U.S. dropping out of the Antiballistic Missile Treaty after the collapse of the Soviet Union (which was the co-signatory to the ABM Treaty) and the end of the Cold War.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122049148440397625
If the trumpers are saying you are wrong it’s a good sign you are right. The trumper/conservatives have grown up getting participation trophies and now think their idiocracy is something to be proud of. It is not. It’s time for the losers in society(republicans/conservatives) are put back in their place.
Anonymous
03/10/2022 08:07
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Biden once vote against star wars missile defense?
That’s 100% irrelevant.
I recall tons of analysts and experts saying SDI was an impractical, impossibly expensive boondoggle. I think the real intent of talking "SDI" was more an attempt at a psychological reality than an actual military infrastructure.