Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 10:54     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:All of them dying from toxic algae is unlikely. Too many variables in play. He’s a 6’2” man, so he’s going to be affected differently by algae than a toddler. It’s also shocking if they gave river water to a toddler. I can’t see them doing that.

No wildlife in the area was found dead from the toxic algae. The sheriff said this in the September Facebook live talk.


It makes no sense any of them would have drank river water except maybe the dog when they had a canteen on them that still had fresh water in it when they were found. For the algae to be a possibility it would have had to be airborne, which seems pretty far out there, especially with no impacted wildlife as you said.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 04:19     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

All of them dying from toxic algae is unlikely. Too many variables in play. He’s a 6’2” man, so he’s going to be affected differently by algae than a toddler. It’s also shocking if they gave river water to a toddler. I can’t see them doing that.

No wildlife in the area was found dead from the toxic algae. The sheriff said this in the September Facebook live talk.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2021 02:42     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔



It would be the first recorded death from toxic algae.



Maybe, but...

In this case, maybe the excessive heat COMBINED with the algae is what contributed to their deaths.

It makes sense, as the whole family would have drank the water (including the dog) which would attest to them dying under the same sad circumstance.

And before anyone mentions that the dog would have run away if they had died -- wouldn't the dog have died before John & Ellen, as it was so much smaller & lighter, and the heat/algae would have affected it's delicate physiology quicker?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 23:20     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide



Heat exhaustion hasn’t been ruled out?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 22:21     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a FA situation, but I don’t understand how they could have ruled out suicide but not foul play. Like if someone could have poisoned them, it presumably could have been one of them? It just doesn’t make sense to me logically that they could think this could theoretically be intentional, but have categorically ruled out one of the dead as being ultimately responsible.


They ruled out murder in their late August update I believe.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 21:05     Subject: What happened to this California family?

I don’t think it’s a FA situation, but I don’t understand how they could have ruled out suicide but not foul play. Like if someone could have poisoned them, it presumably could have been one of them? It just doesn’t make sense to me logically that they could think this could theoretically be intentional, but have categorically ruled out one of the dead as being ultimately responsible.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 20:06     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔



It would be the first recorded death from toxic algae.


Welcome to climate change. You all thought we would die by fire or flood, but it will be the bugs and fungus that crush us.

Look at that weird painful moth that is dominating all of Maine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/maine-caterpillar-itchy-poisonous-browntail-moth/619376/
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 19:59     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔



It would be the first recorded death from toxic algae.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 18:17     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I fully expect at least one of the FA diehards will present us with a theory that one parent murdered the rest (through means other than cyanide or shooting) and then died accidentally.


Wasn’t there a theory a few pages back that the dad died of a heart attack and then the wife died from being crazy, or something like that?


There was one weirdly invested poster who boasted about inside knowledge that Ellen was crazy and poisoned the whole family and that Jon’s family was going to bury him and the baby but leave her behind.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 17:44     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:I fully expect at least one of the FA diehards will present us with a theory that one parent murdered the rest (through means other than cyanide or shooting) and then died accidentally.


Wasn’t there a theory a few pages back that the dad died of a heart attack and then the wife died from being crazy, or something like that?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 17:41     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:I fully expect at least one of the FA diehards will present us with a theory that one parent murdered the rest (through means other than cyanide or shooting) and then died accidentally.


Yes, and it's absolutely gonna be. Chung, because this site is full of misogynists. The suggestion will be that she was found up the trail because she'd killed her family and was headed back to the car and then succumbed to the heat. They've said it repeatedly. It's gross and hateful.

There are no answers yet. People want it to be something nefarious because that makes it easier to believe it won't happen to them.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 17:37     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

I fully expect at least one of the FA diehards will present us with a theory that one parent murdered the rest (through means other than cyanide or shooting) and then died accidentally.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 17:32     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔



Suicide rules out FA then huh


Yep.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 16:48     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔



Suicide rules out FA then huh
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2021 16:11     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide


Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔