Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 14:07     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

Isn't that the truth though? "Superior ideals.....mucky messes"...yes to that!! This is why I don't really get the influencer thing. It's like a high tech version of those Christmas newsletters people used to send where they listed one brilliant achievement after another. I always threatened to send out a parody- like, "Tommy got paroled, Jennie ran away with the carnival, and my hubby decided he was a polygamist..." but my family begged me not to. It's not like I have super- human immunity to it- I have weak moments where I imagine these celebrities have it all. But very brief moments. I have 8 kids and we recently had a big vacation together. It was a once in a lifetime splurge, and an amazing serendipitous moment in time. It's hard to coordinate all of them with jobs, college, grandkids too. But the most blessed part was watching all the people I love most, loving and enjoying each other. That is where the joy is. That is "We" camp. And we can't afford to ever do it again, but we all have each other. And we can find that togetherness at home, or in the quiet sharing of words by writing letters! ( We still do Anyway, all of that is to say I have figured out that the influencers and the celebrities really don't have it all together. Maybe the constant travel and boasting and celebration of bratty kids is a way to ignore what is lacking. People spouting advice when the dust hadn't even settled on the last blown up relationship. About the only thing I take advice from at this point is the Bible and the 100 year olds who get interviewed on the news- " Have faith in God". "Be kind". " Don't stay mad", and " Always think of the other person". The world is full of the wrong people giving advice.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 13:13     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

yeah, zulily isn't the place to order from if you need something by next week.

ridiculous shill!
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 13:07     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Zulily? What even is it? Is it even a store that makes sense for school shopping? Last time I ordered something from there, it took months to arrive
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 12:53     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Also the endless pontificating. I am for healing and taking time and that can some time take years and we’re always healing from some thing or new things and the same things pop up over and over again. But the constant navel gazing and self-admiration and monetizing and circular ideas and repetition is something different than normal healing.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 12:50     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I just don’t think that “life” should be someone’s job. They’re essentially trying to sell “life” to you. No one is getting out alive and what do they know that I and others don’t? Or that I should hold them in higher regard than other everyday people? It’s all indeed very con-artistry.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 12:47     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Y’all Jen looks pretty darn good for 48 it’s just Tina is freakishly youthful. I’m betting she’s a medical assistant in a cosmetic surgery center. To hang out on lakes in South Texas all summer for years and show virtually no wear on her face suggests she’s been getting higher end medical treatments like Botox etc since at least 30.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 12:41     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Glennon just did a double date with Martha Beck, Oprah’s old life coach, and one of Martha’s partners on Glennon’s podcast to discuss her life in a throuple. I get the feeling these people are completely full of crap. They espouse all these superior ideals but their actual lives are these mucky messes.
What Glennon says she’s values goes out the window if there’s an opportunity to be relevant, connected to big names, or appear the queen of woke. Reality has no bearing in her mission.

I’m now of the opinion I can trust none of what these former mommy blogger turned celebrity influencers say. They are masters of deception who use double speak to manipulate their followers. The fact Glennon and Jen started their word smithing Witchery on Christian moms would be almost funny if it weren’t so sad.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 09:16     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Caleb wouldn’t get out of bed for school, she’d gush about how individual and walks to the beat of his own drum and just how adorable she finds it.

Or would she go with the I’m just done, I’m not responsible for you and what you won’t do anymore (Remy).


Ok, I’m gonna say it and it’s snarky and tacky, but I think the whole adoption thing was done somewhat hastily and I’m not 100% sure she doesn’t regret it on some level. I know they love both of them and the bio kids do too… it just always seemed too much of a photo opportunity to me. And she gushes over Ben, because he was easy. Remy struggled more and was younger. I think Sister Jen forgot all the hard things that go into parenting a young child, not to mention the trauma that child went through. It couldn’t have been easy for Remy. Frankly, Jen seemed put off by her. I actually saw such an episode at one of the ANC downtown cookouts once. I was stunned at the way Jen spoke to Remy. She essentially told her to suck it up, butter cup, but not in a loving way, when young Remy was crying and a little whiny about something. I get sometimes we are at the end of our rope with our kiddos, (and I’ve said things angrily that I shouldn’t have.) but Jen was absolutely cold and harsh—- I was quite shocked.

But also - I know that there was a perception that Jen used other ANC moms (and perhaps others) as a baby sitter for Remy. Weekend sleep overs were the norm for a while. But strangely, for the most part, those sleepovers weren’t at Jen Jen’s house. It was a one sided deal. Jen had too much adult partying to do. Trips to see the Paisleys, concerts at COTA ; you know, all the stuff parents like to do once their kids are a little older. But I know many folks felt used by her to take Remy off her hands for pretty long periods of time. I mean Jen needs her “me time” for goodness sake. Never mind the millions of parents (married and single) who struggle to have date nights or postpone some of their “me time” for the sake of their kids. I mean— I missed a lot of stuff, but I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I loved, and still love, spending time with my kids.

Jen was that mom who drops her kid off at Gatti Town or Chuck E Cheese, but doesn’t have the courtesy to hang around with the other moms while the pizza party is happening. She bolts and comes back in 2 hrs to pick her kid up. Jen. Just. Can’t. It’s too much for her. I suffered through dozens of these parties, and you know what? I’m glad I did. I helped the other moms. I helped make sure everyone got their cake. It’s what parents do for their kids. Not Jen. She’s too good for that. But she wants you to heed her advice “young moms” (god, it’s so F’n condescending when she addresses younger folks that way!) on all the right ways to raise your kids and manage a family. Yet, her family appears to have taken place at Dysfunction Junction. Gimme an f’n break, sister.



How is Glennon, a supposed champion of Black Lives Matter, such a fan of Jen, who treats Remi so poorly> Having a black "boyfriend" and raising an easy male child who is black does not give you a pass. Remi matters too. She deserves a loving mother, respect and human decency. So hypocritical to pretend to care about all black lives and then to turn a blind eye to how Remi is treated.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 08:43     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why does Jen look so much older than Tina? They're literally the same age. And Tina seems like she drinks as much as Jen... Lots of partying with Brandon. Brandon posted on Instagram stories a pic of Tina holding a drink at a bar last night.
Why does Jen look 15-20 years older than Tina?? I can't figure it out


Genetics. Jen also raised 5 kids and Tina 1 (as far as I know), and kids definitely age you. But my guess is mostly genetics.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2022 07:59     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Serious question. Why does Jen look so much older than Tina? They're literally the same age. And Tina seems like she drinks as much as Jen... Lots of partying with Brandon. Brandon posted on Instagram stories a pic of Tina holding a drink at a bar last night.
Why does Jen look 15-20 years older than Tina?? I can't figure it out
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2022 22:53     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:No. Now it’s back to school items. No no no no please tell me people aren’t gullible enough to fall for this.


It’s tacky. Seriously Jen, you’re hawking school clothes?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2022 20:54     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

No. Now it’s back to school items. No no no no please tell me people aren’t gullible enough to fall for this.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2022 17:42     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I think even social media research points to the more someone posts about something pertaining to themselves - including significant relationships - the less likely it is true and the less secure what’s being presented is behind the scenes/off screen.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2022 17:13     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t she crop Gavin in his undies out of the photo? Cause she lacks empathy. I thought it was interesting how she had hurt Glennon’s feelings years ago and when she was confronted she told Glennon, I’m not sensitive. Like that excused her behavior and Glennon needed to get over it. So Glennon asked her if she’d gotten more sensible after the divorce. She had to think about it but thinks she allows others to have feelings now. Where in the past she had no tolerance for their pain. She even admitted how hard this would’ve been for Brandon and the kids. While appreciated her insight I wonder how much of the mess in her family was directly caused by everyone needing to keep up the picture of a perfect family to fit the public narrative she’d woven. That’s a lot of pressure, when even privately she couldn’t handle their real messy selves.
At this point I wonder what is even the truth about anything she’s ever said.

I noticed Brandon posted on IG a photo Lee Greenwood saying he’s a true patriot. hashtag “proud to be an American.” Well it sure looks like he’s shed his woke ways and swung way back the other direction. Who are these people for real?


Yes!! She is so curt and short when she makes these matter of fact proclamations, with the little pregnant pause for you to just soak it it. I can hear her: “I’m not sensitive (insert slight lisp). I’m not. Nope. It’s just the way I am. You can get over it. My kids can get over it. The world doesn’t work that way and neither do I.” And in the next frame— she’s gushing over her nephew and how they have such an unbreakable and precious Aunt/Nephew bond, and she looks like she’s the most sensitive person in the world. Which is it, sister? She’s manic AF.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2022 15:40     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Why didn’t she crop Gavin in his undies out of the photo? Cause she lacks empathy. I thought it was interesting how she had hurt Glennon’s feelings years ago and when she was confronted she told Glennon, I’m not sensitive. Like that excused her behavior and Glennon needed to get over it. So Glennon asked her if she’d gotten more sensible after the divorce. She had to think about it but thinks she allows others to have feelings now. Where in the past she had no tolerance for their pain. She even admitted how hard this would’ve been for Brandon and the kids. While appreciated her insight I wonder how much of the mess in her family was directly caused by everyone needing to keep up the picture of a perfect family to fit the public narrative she’d woven. That’s a lot of pressure, when even privately she couldn’t handle their real messy selves.
At this point I wonder what is even the truth about anything she’s ever said.

I noticed Brandon posted on IG a photo Lee Greenwood saying he’s a true patriot. hashtag “proud to be an American.” Well it sure looks like he’s shed his woke ways and swung way back the other direction. Who are these people for real?