Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
The biggest lesson is with friends breaking the friend code.
Easy for posters to say friends should have dragged her back to room. No beach for any of them. But it seemed (based on video) they were not in a condition to do so, or tried but couldn't, underestimated her condition at that time or didn't know she was affected, if she was, by anything she ate or drank.
It’s very easy for me to say because that’s literally what my friends and I did when I we were their age and too drunk to make good decisions. Dragged away from boys (not just random boys but boys we knew), dragged away from going elsewhere, dragged away from hopping in a car or trying to drive. That’s what friends do. True friends at least.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
The biggest lesson is with friends breaking the friend code.
Easy for posters to say friends should have dragged her back to room. No beach for any of them. But it seemed (based on video) they were not in a condition to do so, or tried but couldn't, underestimated her condition at that time or didn't know she was affected, if she was, by anything she ate or drank.
This is the correct answer. In a situation where I was the only sober young person, I prevented the other girls from trying to use a speedboat and doing other drunken activities. The speedboat belonged to the family of one of the girls and we were at their vacation home.
Which leads to another question: Do young people no longer assign one individual to stay sober when everyone else is drinking? This person is the designated driver, etc.
It’s very easy for me to say because that’s literally what my friends and I did when I we were their age and too drunk to make good decisions. Dragged away from boys (not just random boys but boys we knew), dragged away from going elsewhere, dragged away from hopping in a car or trying to drive. That’s what friends do. True friends at least.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never believed he drowned her. I believed she either drowned or a random man or men approached her after the near drowning incident. If anyone recalls a UVA murder a few years ago, the murderer randomly came upon the teen victim in a solo drunken state and pounced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hannah_Graham
That was a serial killer. Why in the world would you even connect those crimes to this?
Because the boy allegedly claims he saved her when they were both nearly drowning and the last he saw her she was on the beach with him? If that's true, maybe some local men pounded in her in a solo drunken state. Who the hell knows! But it sounds like that wasn't even considered a possibility, because obviously it's better for business to point the finger at an American boy.
My in-laws just returned from a DR vacation and they said the entire place felt super sketchy and Third World. I have no interest in ever going there.
Can you share what that means? For those that don't know (no snark)? What's the correlation, "super sketchy" and "third world"? Are thirds world all "super sketchy"?
It means police and private security everywhere with machine guns. Third World corruption everywhere and dysfunction ready to pop off at a moments notice. Why Americans are duped into traveling to these hell holes is beyond me. We have world class beaches and resorts in America.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
The biggest lesson is with friends breaking the friend code.
Easy for posters to say friends should have dragged her back to room. No beach for any of them. But it seemed (based on video) they were not in a condition to do so, or tried but couldn't, underestimated her condition at that time or didn't know she was affected, if she was, by anything she ate or drank.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never believed he drowned her. I believed she either drowned or a random man or men approached her after the near drowning incident. If anyone recalls a UVA murder a few years ago, the murderer randomly came upon the teen victim in a solo drunken state and pounced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hannah_Graham
That was a serial killer. Why in the world would you even connect those crimes to this?
Because the boy allegedly claims he saved her when they were both nearly drowning and the last he saw her she was on the beach with him? If that's true, maybe some local men pounded in her in a solo drunken state. Who the hell knows! But it sounds like that wasn't even considered a possibility, because obviously it's better for business to point the finger at an American boy.
My in-laws just returned from a DR vacation and they said the entire place felt super sketchy and Third World. I have no interest in ever going there.
Can you share what that means? For those that don't know (no snark)? What's the correlation, "super sketchy" and "third world"? Are thirds world all "super sketchy"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
The biggest lesson is with friends breaking the friend code.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never believed he drowned her. I believed she either drowned or a random man or men approached her after the near drowning incident. If anyone recalls a UVA murder a few years ago, the murderer randomly came upon the teen victim in a solo drunken state and pounced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hannah_Graham
That was a serial killer. Why in the world would you even connect those crimes to this?
Because the boy allegedly claims he saved her when they were both nearly drowning and the last he saw her she was on the beach with him? If that's true, maybe some local men pounded in her in a solo drunken state. Who the hell knows! But it sounds like that wasn't even considered a possibility, because obviously it's better for business to point the finger at an American boy.
My in-laws just returned from a DR vacation and they said the entire place felt super sketchy and Third World. I have no interest in ever going there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.
She chose to get drunk and chose to swim, drunk, at night. Teach your kids to make better choices.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheesh..take up the job in DR to look into this. Wouldn't trained authorities have already tried to find others who were hanging out at the bar that early morning per that video? You don't know what took place prior to the only video you can reference now, nor the conditions of the people and those around them.
People this naive bring down the thread.
The primary source of legit income in DR is tourism. Illegit is drug and people trafficking. Both are protected. No official wants to conflate them in the minds of potential tourists.
Anonymous wrote:May she rest in peace. But as a lesson to all young kids. Trouble is everyone and you can can find it any time if you look for it. The bottom line, if you look for trouble you will certainly find it. Therefore, when it comes to strangers, parties, travel overseas , night time you need to be very alert because someone is watching you. And if you are not careful, they will come at you. Plain and simple.
It is possible some killer got her but she also made herself easy prey by going at night in DR and heavy on alcohol. What else could she expect from this mix.