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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

The US is already a party. DOJ represents the US government and imicutly represents ODNI as a stakeholder. In this case the National Security Division of DOJ is running the show.

But the judge thinks that DOJ is not part of the executive branch otherwise how can there be executive privilege?

The ruling is absurdly illogical and incoherent.

She should write the truth: I’m a doormat for trump! I have wiped my @$$ with the constitution. #MAGAgarbage

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Anonymous wrote:Guiliani doesn't have the necessary clearance. Other than Obama, no attorney will.

Trump will grant him the clearances, the judge will approve it and DOJ will fall in line. Yeah Trump is not president and he does not have the power to do that but as long as the judge goes along with it…after this is it really a bridge too far?

We are way past law and order. Wait till November. The courts are packed with republicans judges. It is going to be ugly and shockingly open.

Trump can’t grant clearances anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

If I'm ODNI I'm not even thinking about darkening that courtroom with my shadow.

I believe DNI is making their assessment under an analytical framework that assumes the classified materials were released into the public domain. They can spin off every other theory from there.

That probably would mean pulling out a lot of IC assets that we cannot replace and that may not need to be pulled out. That on its own would create national security risks because of how in the dark we might be about certain countries.

Anonymous wrote:Guiliani doesn't have the necessary clearance. Other than Obama, no attorney will.

There is no shortage of lawyers, many of whom worked for DOJ or Congressional intelligence committees, who hold top secret clearances. Some even have facilities that comply with relevant SCIF requirements. It is particularly common for those working on issues in the specialized practice areas of nuclear energy. It’s not an issue. DOJ appoints a designated person as an officer of the court to get clearances for defense counsel under CIPA all the time in espionage cases.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

If I'm ODNI I'm not even thinking about darkening that courtroom with my shadow.

I believe DNI is making their assessment under an analytical framework that assumes the classified materials were released into the public domain. They can spin off every other theory from there.

What they do will never see the light of a trumpist judge’s court room.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

If I'm ODNI I'm not even thinking about darkening that courtroom with my shadow.

I believe DNI is making their assessment under an analytical framework that assumes the classified materials were released into the public domain. They can spin off every other theory from there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

The US is already a party. DOJ represents the US government and imicutly represents ODNI as a stakeholder. In this case the National Security Division of DOJ is running the show.

But the judge thinks that DOJ is not part of the executive branch otherwise how can there be executive privilege?

The ruling is absurdly illogical and incoherent.

Anonymous wrote:Guiliani doesn't have the necessary clearance. Other than Obama, no attorney will.

Trump: I declassified all the documents planted by the FBI that they dumped out of the cartons in my office closet

Trump lawyers: yeah, the Special Master is gonna need a security clearance to review materials with classification markings

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

The US is already a party. DOJ represents the US government and imicutly represents ODNI as a stakeholder. In this case the National Security Division of DOJ is running the show.

But the judge thinks that DOJ is not part of the executive branch otherwise how can there be executive privilege?

Anonymous wrote:Guiliani doesn't have the necessary clearance. Other than Obama, no attorney will.

Trump will grant him the clearances, the judge will approve it and DOJ will fall in line. Yeah Trump is not president and he does not have the power to do that but as long as the judge goes along with it…after this is it really a bridge too far?

We are way past law and order. Wait till November. The courts are packed with republicans judges. It is going to be ugly and shockingly open.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

The US is already a party. DOJ represents the US government and imicutly represents ODNI as a stakeholder. In this case the National Security Division of DOJ is running the show.

So Trump will have the right to view these national security documents again?

Is there a risk here that Trump, while given access to the documents:

1. Identifies who might have warned authorities about illegally keeping classified documents, and

2. gets another opportunity to view classified information and spread it to unauthorized people?

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how ODNI can continue its review if DOJ is barred from reviewing the documents pending review by the special master. Won't ODNI need information/evidence from DOJ about who might have handled or had access to the documents while they were at Mar-a-Lago in order to evaluate the extent of any harm to national security? How is ODNI going to get that information if they cannot discuss the documents with DOJ?

To this point, can ODNI intervene somehow to seek clarification of the order or request reconsideration? It seems like the most effective way to get the court to reconsider this moronic decision is if ODNI points out that it cannot carry out a critical national security risk assessment without being able to talk to DOJ about these documents and the related investigation.

Guiliani doesn't have the necessary clearance. Other than Obama, no attorney will.