Anonymous
05/15/2022 15:57
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
People say this, but most of them also want exceptions for rape and incest. If you are okay with abortion if the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest, then you don't truly believe it's the same as murdering a 3 day old infant.
Exactly, if there's an exception for rape and incest, there might as well be an exception for "we used birth control but it failed". The circumstances of conception shouldn't matter. This is all about punishing people.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 15:41
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Let’s look at this with a RWNJ lens.
The uterus is a SCOTUS house.
And the fetus is a protestor.
The uterus is a SCOTUS house.
And the fetus is a protestor.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 14:21
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Unless the baby is guilty you don't execute
Anonymous
05/15/2022 14:03
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
+1 Is life sacred or not? Are some lives less sacred than others?
Anonymous
05/15/2022 13:40
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
DP. If you believe in the sanctity of life, you should be opposed to the willful taking of all life.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 13:36
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
But they are fine with the death penalty
did the baby do something wrong and go to trail to get aborted?
Anonymous
05/15/2022 12:59
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
People say this, but most of them also want exceptions for rape and incest. If you are okay with abortion if the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest, then you don't truly believe it's the same as murdering a 3 day old infant.
No sane believes abortion is the same as murder. No nonlunatic would punish women who get abortions or doctors who perform them the same as murderers.
Yet this is the political rhetoric driving policy-making. Elected representatives make statements like this and pass legislation consistent with this. The country may be suffering from mass lunacy, but the reality is we (i.e. a sizable number of Americans) are not just accepting but actively supporting this exact viewpoint.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 12:36
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Improchoice and do have an issue with people having abortions later in pregnancy for things other than complications with the fetus or the mother's health. The problem becomes once you start restricting things and adding more hoops for people to jump through, doctors are reluctant to provide the care that people need in a timely manner for being sued or prosecuted. That's not good for the woman, the family, the city state or the United States. We need to trust medical professionals and allow people the autonomy to make those decisions. Looking at the facts third trimester abortions are rarely done for fun. So to argue that we don't want women just to wake up one day and be sick of being pregnant and go get an abortion. That's just not something that the facts support is happening. So I don't understand why we're putting so much weight on that I guess
The fact of the matter is that people who are having late term abortions are not doing it for sh*ts and grins. These are people who have bought furniture, painted rooms, dreamed of names etc and then are faced with a horrific choice.
No one carries a fetus for 6 months and then decides, nah, I don't want it.
I had to make that decision. Her nursery was Peter Pan-themed. I had to buy her casket while leaking breast milk.
Believe me when I say no one has any right to be in that room making those decisions besides me, my husband, and my doctors.
+1000 to both of these posts. This a myth that needs to die. So sorry for your losses.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 12:23
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
People say this, but most of them also want exceptions for rape and incest. If you are okay with abortion if the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest, then you don't truly believe it's the same as murdering a 3 day old infant.
No sane believes abortion is the same as murder. No nonlunatic would punish women who get abortions or doctors who perform them the same as murderers.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 12:07
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
People say this, but most of them also want exceptions for rape and incest. If you are okay with abortion if the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest, then you don't truly believe it's the same as murdering a 3 day old infant.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 11:37
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Improchoice and do have an issue with people having abortions later in pregnancy for things other than complications with the fetus or the mother's health. The problem becomes once you start restricting things and adding more hoops for people to jump through, doctors are reluctant to provide the care that people need in a timely manner for being sued or prosecuted. That's not good for the woman, the family, the city state or the United States. We need to trust medical professionals and allow people the autonomy to make those decisions. Looking at the facts third trimester abortions are rarely done for fun. So to argue that we don't want women just to wake up one day and be sick of being pregnant and go get an abortion. That's just not something that the facts support is happening. So I don't understand why we're putting so much weight on that I guess
The fact of the matter is that people who are having late term abortions are not doing it for sh*ts and grins. These are people who have bought furniture, painted rooms, dreamed of names etc and then are faced with a horrific choice.
No one carries a fetus for 6 months and then decides, nah, I don't want it.
I had to make that decision. Her nursery was Peter Pan-themed. I had to buy her casket while leaking breast milk.
Believe me when I say no one has any right to be in that room making those decisions besides me, my husband, and my doctors.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 10:40
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Improchoice and do have an issue with people having abortions later in pregnancy for things other than complications with the fetus or the mother's health. The problem becomes once you start restricting things and adding more hoops for people to jump through, doctors are reluctant to provide the care that people need in a timely manner for being sued or prosecuted. That's not good for the woman, the family, the city state or the United States. We need to trust medical professionals and allow people the autonomy to make those decisions. Looking at the facts third trimester abortions are rarely done for fun. So to argue that we don't want women just to wake up one day and be sick of being pregnant and go get an abortion. That's just not something that the facts support is happening. So I don't understand why we're putting so much weight on that I guess
The fact of the matter is that people who are having late term abortions are not doing it for sh*ts and grins. These are people who have bought furniture, painted rooms, dreamed of names etc and then are faced with a horrific choice.
No one carries a fetus for 6 months and then decides, nah, I don't want it.
Anonymous
05/15/2022 10:02
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Improchoice and do have an issue with people having abortions later in pregnancy for things other than complications with the fetus or the mother's health. The problem becomes once you start restricting things and adding more hoops for people to jump through, doctors are reluctant to provide the care that people need in a timely manner for being sued or prosecuted. That's not good for the woman, the family, the city state or the United States. We need to trust medical professionals and allow people the autonomy to make those decisions. Looking at the facts third trimester abortions are rarely done for fun. So to argue that we don't want women just to wake up one day and be sick of being pregnant and go get an abortion. That's just not something that the facts support is happening. So I don't understand why we're putting so much weight on that I guess
Anonymous
05/15/2022 09:51
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Free speech.
If I ever see Alito in person I will scream at him until his ears bleed.
Alito is now the new Hitler, the new Mussolini.
I will not have my liberty downgraded because he is a sexist pig.
I will not be willingly enslaved.
Just move to Maryland or DC. Problem solved.
Not if there's a nationwide ban.
Very unlikely to happen. Abortion wasnt illegal throughout the US before RvW so it doesnt logically follow that it will be banned after.
Abortion wasn’t politicized before the way it is now. Sure Catholics opposed it but it wasn’t a core tenet of right wing ideology until later
Pre-1980's Catholics practiced what they preached. They also didn't impose their religion on to others the way the Evangelicals are now.
There is scant evidence this has happened due to anyone's religion. Many people believe abortion is murder and they have concerns with murder for many reasons, some moral and some practical.
More than scant evidence.
Most people who think abortion should be banned in most/all cases say that religion is their guidance.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
“Among those who do identify with a religion, the majority view about abortion among members of a particular group often mirrors that group’s official policy on abortion.”
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/22/american-religious-groups-vary-widely-in-their-views-of-abortion/
Anonymous
05/15/2022 09:44
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
The two illegitimate justices should just step down.