Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop that nonsense with isolating vulnerable already.
When you add all those groups:

Heart problems - 125 Million
Asthmatics - some 50 Millions
Cancer...
Diabetes..
Immunosupressed..

You and up with some 70% of the country.
Factor in, most of those people are exposed through the kids and young adults who
work then you o up to 80%..

Now if of the reminder 20% you most likely need to keep tabs of who is well and
who is sick so you would need to keep testing them ALL the time as today well
tomorrow positive would infect the reminder of the pool.

How do you propose to do tat? At 250 bucks a test pop?
Let me recap:

250 Dolllars one test
2500 - ten tests
25, 000 hundred tests
250, 000 one thousand tests !!!! as in 1000 people..

so o test 1 000 000 you need to spend 250 000 000 bucks
Once you come to test 4 million people you have spent an etire BILLION dollars.

You tell me... is it worth it? Where does it gets you testing people who are well today
and sick tomorrow to retest and retest them? Where do the money come from.
Frankly put this into taking care of the existing cases and we have much better
spent founds.

You definitely just made those numbers up. Try a little harder next time.

Number of adults with diagnosed heart disease is 30.3 million, not 125 million. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/heart-disease.htm

25 million (not 50 million) have asthma https://www.aafa.org/asthma-facts/

Dahling .. at your service.. and please
do not call me a liar.. CDC is no your only source.. dig deeper.. ask different questions..

According to the study from the American Heart Association, 121.5 million Americans, or about 48.5 percent, dealt with heart or blood vessel disease as of 2016.

I admit being off by 4 million but that is not what you imlying.. lol
Published January 31st 2019.. USA Today..
Nearly half of Americans have heart disease, study says
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/31/heart-disease-nearly-half-u-s-adults-have-it-study-finds/2729955002/

Anonymous wrote:Three questions and sorry if they have been covered but I could not find them.

Does anyone with relevant expertise know:
1. How common getting corona more than once is? ( it has been reported but I am not sure whether that is rare or common)
2. Do most people build immunity to the virus if they get corona once but recover? (since it seems as though it has mutated and people are getting it more than once).
3. If people had it in the past, but recover, will the test show whether they have had it in the past? (I suspect family members had it six weeks ago but clinic refused to test them as we had not traveled and they did not need hospitalization although pretty sick with flu like symptoms plus they tested negative for flu and strep).

Thanks in advance for information in this (if links to articles, I would prefer sources with scientific credibility not political blowhards pushing their own agendas).

Thanks and stay as well as possible everyone. 😀

1. Probably uncommon
2. Probably
3. Probably

It's novel. No one can tell you definitive answers.

Three questions and sorry if they have been covered but I could not find them.

Does anyone with relevant expertise know:
1. How common getting corona more than once is? ( it has been reported but I am not sure whether that is rare or common)
2. Do most people build immunity to the virus if they get corona once but recover? (since it seems as though it has mutated and people are getting it more than once).
3. If people had it in the past, but recover, will the test show whether they have had it in the past? (I suspect family members had it six weeks ago but clinic refused to test them as we had not traveled and they did not need hospitalization although pretty sick with flu like symptoms plus they tested negative for flu and strep).

Thanks in advance for information in this (if links to articles, I would prefer sources with scientific credibility not political blowhards pushing their own agendas).

Thanks and stay as well as possible everyone. 😀

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop that nonsense with isolating vulnerable already.
When you add all those groups:

Heart problems - 125 Million
Asthmatics - some 50 Millions
Cancer...
Diabetes..
Immunosupressed..

You and up with some 70% of the country.
Factor in, most of those people are exposed through the kids and young adults who
work then you o up to 80%..

Now if of the reminder 20% you most likely need to keep tabs of who is well and
who is sick so you would need to keep testing them ALL the time as today well
tomorrow positive would infect the reminder of the pool.

How do you propose to do tat? At 250 bucks a test pop?
Let me recap:

250 Dolllars one test
2500 - ten tests
25, 000 hundred tests
250, 000 one thousand tests !!!! as in 1000 people..

so o test 1 000 000 you need to spend 250 000 000 bucks
Once you come to test 4 million people you have spent an etire BILLION dollars.

You tell me... is it worth it? Where does it gets you testing people who are well today
and sick tomorrow to retest and retest them? Where do the money come from.
Frankly put this into taking care of the existing cases and we have much better
spent founds.

You definitely just made those numbers up. Try a little harder next time.

Number of adults with diagnosed heart disease is 30.3 million, not 125 million. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/heart-disease.htm

25 million (not 50 million) have asthma https://www.aafa.org/asthma-facts/

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Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

1. NO not most of the country will be fine. Most of the people who will recover from it, even if alive will have o deal with tons of debilitating health issues for life.
2. Are we going to start recession? I don't know, aren't we in cyclic economy that goes through ups and downs and haven't we due one anyway? Would we say the same thing should it come?
3. We don't need to put millions out of the job, once this thing will end, we all will need to go back to live and use the same services. NEEDS will NOT disappear overnight or over few months or weeks whatever.
People will STILL need to eat, to shop, to do their hair, to buy cars, to eat in restaurants, to go to the doctor to go to the dentists.. we will need all that so economy won't collapse. People will be hungry for all services and products not having them for so long.
4. Increased suicide you say? Do tell me where will lead deaths of family members exposed to CV due to work or school? Where will lead loosing providers for kids and all.. no suicides you say? debilitating health conditions past CV.. not suicides you say?
5. Domestic abuse and child abuse my dear is not going to change just because you want it to. It is either in people or it is not. If they were at each other's throat all those years, they shell continue, if not they won't start. No change here, no difference. If anything having parents or spouses at home and getting an opportunity to spend some quality time while nobody really never could before might do good rather then bad as you think.

Your talking points are very fake and kind of fearmongering if you ask. They are designed to show very one dimensional situation and scare into submission. Yes, we can all suffer some if we keep the country close some, but this is smaller price to pay then infecting everyone and pay then. There will be no going back. No do over no becksies.

Can I get a citation on this? Sounds suspect.

Weird that the skeleton has a pen*s

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Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

You guys are right - i give up. We should all hide in our caves, live in bubble wrap and never come out again. You win.

NO Dude! Let's do it your way...

Let the Economy keep Rollin....

(Ringing a bell) "Bring out yer dead...."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

You guys are right - i give up. We should all hide in our caves, live in bubble wrap and never come out again. You win.

NO Dude! Let's do it your way...

Let the Economy keep Rollin....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

You guys are right - i give up. We should all hide in our caves, live in bubble wrap and never come out again. You win.

NO Dude! Let's do it your way...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

1. NO not most of the country will be fine. Most of the people who will recover from it, even if alive will have o deal with tons of debilitating health issues for life.
2. Are we going to start recession? I don't know, aren't we in cyclic economy that goes through ups and downs and haven't we due one anyway? Would we say the same thing should it come?
3. We don't need to put millions out of the job, once this thing will end, we all will need to go back to live and use the same services. NEEDS will NOT disappear overnight or over few months or weeks whatever.
People will STILL need to eat, to shop, to do their hair, to buy cars, to eat in restaurants, to go to the doctor to go to the dentists.. we will need all that so economy won't collapse. People will be hungry for all services and products not having them for so long.
4. Increased suicide you say? Do tell me where will lead deaths of family members exposed to CV due to work or school? Where will lead loosing providers for kids and all.. no suicides you say? debilitating health conditions past CV.. not suicides you say?
5. Domestic abuse and child abuse my dear is not going to change just because you want it to. It is either in people or it is not. If they were at each other's throat all those years, they shell continue, if not they won't start. No change here, no difference. If anything having parents or spouses at home and getting an opportunity to spend some quality time while nobody really never could before might do good rather then bad as you think.

Your talking points are very fake and kind of fearmongering if you ask. They are designed to show very one dimensional situation and scare into submission. Yes, we can all suffer some if we keep the country close some, but this is smaller price to pay then infecting everyone and pay then. There will be no going back. No do over no becksies.

Oh stop that nonsense with isolating vulnerable already.
When you add all those groups:

Heart problems - 125 Million
Asthmatics - some 50 Millions
Cancer...
Diabetes..
Immunosupressed..

You and up with some 70% of the country.
Factor in, most of those people are exposed through the kids and young adults who
work then you o up to 80%..

Now if of the reminder 20% you most likely need to keep tabs of who is well and
who is sick so you would need to keep testing them ALL the time as today well
tomorrow positive would infect the reminder of the pool.

How do you propose to do tat? At 250 bucks a test pop?
Let me recap:

250 Dolllars one test
2500 - ten tests
25, 000 hundred tests
250, 000 one thousand tests !!!! as in 1000 people..

so o test 1 000 000 you need to spend 250 000 000 bucks
Once you come to test 4 million people you have spent an etire BILLION dollars.

You tell me... is it worth it? Where does it gets you testing people who are well today
and sick tomorrow to retest and retest them? Where do the money come from.
Frankly put this into taking care of the existing cases and we have much better
spent founds.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

You guys are right - i give up. We should all hide in our caves, live in bubble wrap and never come out again. You win.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/abbott-receives-approval-for-test-that-can-detect-coronavirus-in-as-little-as-5-minutes.html

This is good news!

Anonymous wrote:

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Go for it.

Your numbers are way off

We are not prepared how hard is this ?..

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Anonymous wrote:"I'm an American and I refuse to live like that."
You are right, you will not live like that.

+1
Enjoy the alternative.

Most people who get the coronavirus do not die. Educate yourselves.

Many people who get the virus die, many due to lack of resources to help them
Educate yourself.

What’s the death rate?

1 in 100, with adequate medical care. It goes up from there. How many people do you know?

Varies greatly from country to country.

What is the death rate in the usa?

It is 1.5% in the US. And over the past week, we've finally started to really ramp up testing and have increased the rate of diagnosis. At the same time, the number of deaths has also risen.

Where are you getting this percentage?

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en#

Thanks!

SO.....98.5% of American's will be fine, and we're going to start the biggest recession we've ever seen? Put millions out of jobs? Bankrupt the country? Increase suicide, domestic abuse, and child abuse rates?

We should isolate the at-risk population, continue to search for a cure, but get on with our lives.

Are you willing to sign a contract that if you or any of your loved ones gets the virus and needs medical care that you will sign away your and their access to medical treatment? I didn't think so.
It is always "not in my backyard" but everyone else should do this.

It is also impossible to isolate the vulnerable. Take my dad, in a rehab for a broken hip. His rehab is staffed by nurses and CNAs. Do we isolate them, too, to protect him? Those nurses and CNAs have spouses and kids. If one of them gets it they pass it to the nurse who passes it to one rehab resident and BOOM - everyone in that rehab is sick. Vulnerable people are linked into the community for their care - they are unable to be fully isolated.