Anonymous wrote:Why do they have such a hard time finding coaches compared to other orgs? Low pay? Difficult management? My kids have never played Valor so no dog in this fight-just curious.

No insight into the reasons, but if you look at other ORG's they sometimes have one coach, coaching 4 teams. That's obv not possible and a placeholder. Hopefully they get released prior to tryouts.

Why do they have such a hard time finding coaches compared to other orgs? Low pay? Difficult management? My kids have never played Valor so no dog in this fight-just curious.

I have never heard of offers and required contracts! for a team without a designated coach before hearing Valor did this. We have always known the coaches for all the teams in an age group before or at tryouts. 4 kids who have played soccer and other club sports.q

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Anonymous wrote:Many other local clubs have posted their full coaching lists. Many other clubs are done with tryouts or mostly thru their ID sessions in lieu of tryouts.

If I was a Valor parent I would be wondering if there are any decent coaches still available to
hire!

When one parent claimed three other clubs listed all of the coaches, I didn’t question which clubs. Now another (or same parent) is claiming “many clubs”. I didn’t bother looking around much, but I do know (from hearing it from other parents) that Loudoun, McLean, GFR, VYS, and SYC are NOT done with their tryouts. Is this wrong? And, did all of these clubs list out all of their coaches? If not, are you wondering if those parents should worry about availabilities of “decent coaches”?

I would never sign a contract for any travel sport not knowing who was coaching my player. This is thousands of dollars we are talking about. If a club won't say who's coaching no one should sign the contract no matter which club it is.

To be fair, a lot of clubs haven't announced on social media every single teams' coach at this point. However, a quick email to the club after you get an offer will get you a name from most clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:For a "parent" you sure do jump on here fast to heroically defend the soccer club your kids have played for...one season. Since you "recently" moved here.

I see you still don’t know the difference between pointing out flaws in parents’ arguments versus defending the club. So now you want to nitpick at something else that you seem to think you won a “gotcha” moment.
“Recently” may be ambiguous. I’ve been in NoVA, but moved to the vicinity of Valor before the start of the 25-26 season. I’ve had my experience at another club. It’s not that different, except the parents are less whiny. At least, online.

My motivation for being at Valor was clear. It is a short drive. Does that sound like I’m defending this club?

I think the flaw in your logic is that people are making "arguments" that you think you are cleverly (??) defeating. The only person trying to argue is you. Other posters are making observations and comments. There is nothing to argue about! Its a fact that Valor hasn't posted their coach slate yet.

If you love yourself some Valor, great. Everyone else hates Valor? Also great for you because your kids will easily get on to the top team and you can continue to enjoy whatever it is about Valor that you like (the short drive, apparently).

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss the coach survey?

On a scale of 0-10, rate your coach.

They sent out a coach survey?

Anonymous wrote:For a "parent" you sure do jump on here fast to heroically defend the soccer club your kids have played for...one season. Since you "recently" moved here.

I see you still don’t know the difference between pointing out flaws in parents’ arguments versus defending the club. So now you want to nitpick at something else that you seem to think you won a “gotcha” moment.
“Recently” may be ambiguous. I’ve been in NoVA, but moved to the vicinity of Valor before the start of the 25-26 season. I’ve had my experience at another club. It’s not that different, except the parents are less whiny. At least, online.

My motivation for being at Valor was clear. It is a short drive. Does that sound like I’m defending this club?

Did I miss the coach survey?

On a scale of 0-10, rate your coach.

Wish they would just list their coaches already and make life easier/
Leave or stay!

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For a "parent" you sure do jump on here fast to heroically defend the soccer club your kids have played for...one season. Since you "recently" moved here.

Anonymous wrote:Many other local clubs have posted their full coaching lists. Many other clubs are done with tryouts or mostly thru their ID sessions in lieu of tryouts.

If I was a Valor parent I would be wondering if there are any decent coaches still available to
hire!

When one parent claimed three other clubs listed all of the coaches, I didn’t question which clubs. Now another (or same parent) is claiming “many clubs”. I didn’t bother looking around much, but I do know (from hearing it from other parents) that Loudoun, McLean, GFR, VYS, and SYC are NOT done with their tryouts. Is this wrong? And, did all of these clubs list out all of their coaches? If not, are you wondering if those parents should worry about availabilities of “decent coaches”?

Many other local clubs have posted their full coaching lists. Many other clubs are done with tryouts or mostly thru their ID sessions in lieu of tryouts.

If I was a Valor parent I would be wondering if there are any decent coaches still available to
hire!

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Anonymous wrote:Are they ever going to announce the coaches? Announcing the first team coaches weeks ago and then nothing for sure reinforces the impression that they son't care about their lower teams.

Did every other club announce all of their coaches?

Great answer! Love it when one of the big 3 (Cory, Dylan, and Paul) get on the thread.

Love how your automatic default answer for anything that isn’t critical of the club must come from an employee.
Please go join another club. I’m sure you think those clubs are utopian.

Why would a parent be so angry and defensive about Valor's slow hiring? Its just a fact. Obviously a staff menber.

Funny how you think you could pinpoint the employment and emotion through my posts. Which you are 0 for 2.
Keep going and demonstrate your stupidity and immaturity.

You are a parent who just angrily and voraciously defends Valor between 9am and 5 pm. Got it lol.

Once again, you can think it’s anger? It’s amusement.
And I’m defending Valor? I’m opposing dumb parents. There is a difference. But I doubt you’ll ever get it. It’s beyond your comprehension level.

Ok. You are just a super chill parent stalking a Valor thread to defend the Awesomeness of Valor.

Would you commit to paying Valor 3k and then waiting to see who shows up to coach in August?

To the parent who posted the clubs they are interested in actually identified coaches of lower teams, I said kudos to those teams and bid good luck and farewell to that parent. No harm no foul.

To the immature parent who automatically assumed I’m an employee for simply asking whether other clubs named all their coaches, I went on to confront. The problem with so many of you here is that you think confronting the logic of a disgruntled parent is the same as defending this club.

So to answer your question regarding paying $3k for the surprise coach- simple answer: maybe. I paid for my children when they first joined this club and knew nothing about the coaches. Worked out for me, but to each their own. If I had a bad experience with one of these mystery coaches, then maybe I’d feel different.

So, you already know who their coaches will be for next season.

I should be rude and just say read the thread on your own. But I’ll be polite and revisit the relevant points for you.

Someone else posted that they will be leaving Valor and that three clubs they are interested in has identified coaches, including the coaches in the lower teams. So I wished them farewell and good luck. I also gave props to that club.

The question was do you, Enthusiastic Valor Parent, have kids who play for the top teams and therefore already know who their coaches next year will be?

I don’t know if I’m responding to the same person or different persons. So once again, confronting someone’s logic is not the same as defending the club.

I chose Valor because I recently moved to the area and it’s very close to the home games and practice venues. Pointing out fallacies of disgruntled parents’ rants doesn’t make me an “Enthusiastic Valor Parent”. I simply asked if other clubs identify all of their coaches, because I didn’t think all of them did. One parent responded that three other clubs did so. I then acknowledged that my assumption was wrong, and I wished them well at the other club. For that, I’m accused of being an employee or an “Enthusiastic Valor Parent”. Makes me wonder why I bother to indulge in debating logic with those who are illogical.

To answer your question- no, I don’t know who the coaches will be for my children. Like many other parents, I think my kids are good enough to make top team. Unlike the delusional parents, I realize they are not as good as the top players in the top team. So it is possible they don’t make it. For that reason, I don’t know who their coaches will be. That won’t make me drive longer to the next club. But again, to each their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they ever going to announce the coaches? Announcing the first team coaches weeks ago and then nothing for sure reinforces the impression that they son't care about their lower teams.

Did every other club announce all of their coaches?

Great answer! Love it when one of the big 3 (Cory, Dylan, and Paul) get on the thread.

Love how your automatic default answer for anything that isn’t critical of the club must come from an employee.
Please go join another club. I’m sure you think those clubs are utopian.

Why would a parent be so angry and defensive about Valor's slow hiring? Its just a fact. Obviously a staff menber.

Funny how you think you could pinpoint the employment and emotion through my posts. Which you are 0 for 2.
Keep going and demonstrate your stupidity and immaturity.

You are a parent who just angrily and voraciously defends Valor between 9am and 5 pm. Got it lol.

Once again, you can think it’s anger? It’s amusement.
And I’m defending Valor? I’m opposing dumb parents. There is a difference. But I doubt you’ll ever get it. It’s beyond your comprehension level.

Ok. You are just a super chill parent stalking a Valor thread to defend the Awesomeness of Valor.

Would you commit to paying Valor 3k and then waiting to see who shows up to coach in August?

To the parent who posted the clubs they are interested in actually identified coaches of lower teams, I said kudos to those teams and bid good luck and farewell to that parent. No harm no foul.

To the immature parent who automatically assumed I’m an employee for simply asking whether other clubs named all their coaches, I went on to confront. The problem with so many of you here is that you think confronting the logic of a disgruntled parent is the same as defending this club.

So to answer your question regarding paying $3k for the surprise coach- simple answer: maybe. I paid for my children when they first joined this club and knew nothing about the coaches. Worked out for me, but to each their own. If I had a bad experience with one of these mystery coaches, then maybe I’d feel different.

So, you already know who their coaches will be for next season.

I should be rude and just say read the thread on your own. But I’ll be polite and revisit the relevant points for you.

Someone else posted that they will be leaving Valor and that three clubs they are interested in has identified coaches, including the coaches in the lower teams. So I wished them farewell and good luck. I also gave props to that club.

The question was do you, Enthusiastic Valor Parent, have kids who play for the top teams and therefore already know who their coaches next year will be?