Anonymous wrote:Counts 3 and 5 Mann Act transportation of Ventura and “Jane” max term is 10 years each. What are the chances he gets the max consecutively?
Defense is now requesting releasing him now until sentencing!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop with the whataboutism that his kids need him. It’s ridiculous. Their father is a nasty, perverted, abuser. They don’t need diddler daddy in their lives. Purely selfish optics to prop up his kids in court. He’s a sh|t father for exposing them to this.
They’re better off without him, even better if he’s in prison for at least a decade so they can detach and establish some sense of normalcy, individualism, higher education, and friends/life partners.
Be honest, would any of you at their ages spend time with a father like him?
I'm sure the kids will tell you that they know a different side of him, a better side. I bet Al Capone's son lived his dad too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop with the whataboutism that his kids need him. It’s ridiculous. Their father is a nasty, perverted, abuser. They don’t need diddler daddy in their lives. Purely selfish optics to prop up his kids in court. He’s a sh|t father for exposing them to this.
They’re better off without him, even better if he’s in prison for at least a decade so they can detach and establish some sense of normalcy, individualism, higher education, and friends/life partners.
Be honest, would any of you at their ages spend time with a father like him?
I'm sure the kids will tell you that they know a different side of him, a better side. I bet Al Capone's son lived his dad too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This judge denied bail previously stating he was a danger to society and victims. Had a vibe early on that the judge probably hoped for a stronger verdict. Would be great if he’s sentenced max total 20 years. At minimum 10 years— 2 five year consecutive.
20 years means he may die in prison. He’s 55 years old
I don’t care, do you? 20 years would support justice for the victims. Cassie and Jane weren’t the only victims. Diddy physically assaulted his staff, including men!
C’mon. He’s scum. Judge delivers sentencing. And I do think he expected a harsher verdict, therefore, think he’ll deliver a harsher sentence.
Cassie uses methadone for her drug addiction. If you saw how these women in Hollywood operate and the drugs they use, you would not feel much sympathy for them. Harvey Weinstein and Diddy are pure examples for why promiscuity is dangerous to males and how money and power provide men who aren’t handsome the opportunity to control the pretty women they strongly resent for not being able to get before money and fame
Disagree. Cassie is a victim and you cannot change this. She clearly has problems but the whole hollywood industry preys on insecurity and so many young people get sucked in. I am sure it was hard for her to testify. The problem is this case was not a case that addressed what happened to her.
What happened to her was DV which was not addressed in any of these charges. Not even one count of assault was placed despite the hotel tape. Coercion was placed instead based on Cassie’s lie that she was forced to do the freakoffs. Before this criminal case, she came out with a lengthy statement to the public where she says she was abused and coerced into prostitution yet maybe she didn’t understand the meaning of prostitution because Diddy was never paid for any of this. This was not a money making enterprise for him. He was spending money.
Racketeering would require some element of profiteering here. The only profiteer it turns out was Cassie. She received money and gifts and retired her parents thanks to her relationship with Diddy. The most damning message is the one where Diddy asks (multiple times at different occasions) if she wants to stop the freakoffs and she says no, never.
Cassie is the link that ruined this case
Plus the messages of Cassie threatening people.
Anonymous wrote:One thing I wondered was did Ben Affleck
dump JLO iver her association with Diddy? Affect seems to be fairly strait laced when it comes to women. Also all these celebrities that were affiliated with him and ghosted him what happened now? Leonardo DiCaprio and Ashton Kucher?
Anonymous wrote:Thanks. I respect the process. This is the same process I had hoped would come back guilty, and while I disagree with them on this, I do believe in it. It couldn’t have been easy being a juror on a case like this.Anonymous wrote:I'm the person that you are responding to. Thanks for explaining your stance. You seem to be very level headed and not one of these drama people. Best of luck to you.Anonymous wrote:I'm the person you quoted. I didn't jump to conclusions. I went into this having no opinion, except I knew, based on the cassie video, that he was abusive. However, I knew that wasn't part of his charges. I was tuned in every single day of this trial, and I read each person's testimony as it was being live-tweeted by a reputable media outlet. I follow a paralegal who went over each tweet as it came out, explained the law, and went over the logistics of how the courtroom works and answered questions as they came up. My opinion was not based on TMZ or internet gossip sites. I listened, watched, and through the process learned a lot bout the law.Anonymous wrote:I don't mean to sound snarky but this is why people shouldn't jump to conclusions.Anonymous wrote:Nobody is trying to make celebrities get longer sentences.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think he'll see any jail time.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This judge denied bail previously stating he was a danger to society and victims. Had a vibe early on that the judge probably hoped for a stronger verdict. Would be great if he’s sentenced max total 20 years. At minimum 10 years— 2 five year consecutive.
20 years means he may die in prison. He’s 55 years old
He will get a suspended sentence as he should. Again we cannot make celebrities have longer sentences.
So, the two charges he is guilty of are nothing charges. You get 0-10 years for this charge, and he'll probably get time served and then be on probation. And I'm sure his defense team will appeal these two charges.
This is a huge disappointment for those of us who thought he was guilty.
Thanks. I respect the process. This is the same process I had hoped would come back guilty, and while I disagree with them on this, I do believe in it. It couldn’t have been easy being a juror on a case like this.Anonymous wrote:I'm the person that you are responding to. Thanks for explaining your stance. You seem to be very level headed and not one of these drama people. Best of luck to you.Anonymous wrote:I'm the person you quoted. I didn't jump to conclusions. I went into this having no opinion, except I knew, based on the cassie video, that he was abusive. However, I knew that wasn't part of his charges. I was tuned in every single day of this trial, and I read each person's testimony as it was being live-tweeted by a reputable media outlet. I follow a paralegal who went over each tweet as it came out, explained the law, and went over the logistics of how the courtroom works and answered questions as they came up. My opinion was not based on TMZ or internet gossip sites. I listened, watched, and through the process learned a lot bout the law.Anonymous wrote:I don't mean to sound snarky but this is why people shouldn't jump to conclusions.Anonymous wrote:Nobody is trying to make celebrities get longer sentences.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think he'll see any jail time.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This judge denied bail previously stating he was a danger to society and victims. Had a vibe early on that the judge probably hoped for a stronger verdict. Would be great if he’s sentenced max total 20 years. At minimum 10 years— 2 five year consecutive.
20 years means he may die in prison. He’s 55 years old
He will get a suspended sentence as he should. Again we cannot make celebrities have longer sentences.
So, the two charges he is guilty of are nothing charges. You get 0-10 years for this charge, and he'll probably get time served and then be on probation. And I'm sure his defense team will appeal these two charges.
This is a huge disappointment for those of us who thought he was guilty.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The prosecutors, defense, and jury were alll shocked when Cassie said while on the stand that she also sued the Intercontinental hotel and received an additional 10 million dollars as well. She didn’t tell the prosecutors that beforehand and decided to share that while on the stand even though it made their case look bad. She didn’t seem to realize this because she isn’t smart[/quote
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She was pretty smart to extort 20 million from Diddy and 10 million from the hotel though
Respectfully, a pencil is smarter than Cassie. Diddy’s female defense attorney called Cassie beautiful and charming before the cross examination to let her guard down and Cassie them told the truth that she did all of this for love and because she loved Diddy, sex. and getting high in that order. I think her husband is the brains behind suing Diddy and the hotel. She’s very dim and the prosecutors visibly gasped when she explained she received an additional 10 million from the hotel, a detail the prosecutors obviously didn’t know about.
I'm the person that you are responding to. Thanks for explaining your stance. You seem to be very level headed and not one of these drama people. Best of luck to you.Anonymous wrote:I'm the person you quoted. I didn't jump to conclusions. I went into this having no opinion, except I knew, based on the cassie video, that he was abusive. However, I knew that wasn't part of his charges. I was tuned in every single day of this trial, and I read each person's testimony as it was being live-tweeted by a reputable media outlet. I follow a paralegal who went over each tweet as it came out, explained the law, and went over the logistics of how the courtroom works and answered questions as they came up. My opinion was not based on TMZ or internet gossip sites. I listened, watched, and through the process learned a lot bout the law.Anonymous wrote:I don't mean to sound snarky but this is why people shouldn't jump to conclusions.Anonymous wrote:Nobody is trying to make celebrities get longer sentences.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think he'll see any jail time.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This judge denied bail previously stating he was a danger to society and victims. Had a vibe early on that the judge probably hoped for a stronger verdict. Would be great if he’s sentenced max total 20 years. At minimum 10 years— 2 five year consecutive.
20 years means he may die in prison. He’s 55 years old
He will get a suspended sentence as he should. Again we cannot make celebrities have longer sentences.
So, the two charges he is guilty of are nothing charges. You get 0-10 years for this charge, and he'll probably get time served and then be on probation. And I'm sure his defense team will appeal these two charges.
This is a huge disappointment for those of us who thought he was guilty.
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t followed this case as closely as I would’ve liked because there aren’t cameras in the courtroom and it’s a bit too graphic anyway, but based on the recaps I’ve seen, this feels a bit like a malicious prosecution. The fact that comey’s daughter is one of the prosecutors isn’t surprising. The comey’s like to use high profile cases to make a name for themselves ala Martha Stewart, which was so absurd and egregious when you look back on it years later.
But back to diddy, this entire trial seems like an overreach and brought largely to embarrass. In the end, the prosecution didn’t find any evidence of white collar crime, tax evasion, illegal weapons. His business was very above board from what I understand. The prosecution went through the whole trial, and at the very end voluntarily dismissed three of their own claims. Why bring them in the first place if you can’t meet your burden? To use the judicial system to embarrass Diddy and make the jury dislike him.
From what I understand, the prosecution wants the jury to convict Diddy for things like “distribution” because he bought the drugs for the parties and everyone used them. If that’s the standard, a lot of people would be in jail. Even the ST is incredibly gray because the women were ordering the workers etc in many cases.
Diddy is not a sympathetic defendant, so I don’t know how this will shake out. The jury may just want to convict b/c he’s a bad guy who hits women. But that’s not the charge and this seems to border on malicious prosecution.
I don’t blame them. I’d write a book too. The people want the details. I would definitely read a book by any of them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really interested in hearing from the jurors. I’m sure they will be all over media today.
I wonder how long it will be before one of them writes a book?