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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I made bad choices. When I moved here I didn’t know that the food could be “bad”. In my country you gained weight if you ate too many sweets. I didn’t know that restaurant food could be processed junk filled with chemicals. They didn’t put chemicals in food in my country. I didn’t know food in USA was a minefield and you have to watch every step.

My friend’s daughter, 11, almost died last summer from undiagnosed diabetes. No one even considered it, the girl is thin as a model and ate a normal American kid diet.

Most of pre diabetics don’t even know they have it unless you check for it specifically.

You wrote almost the same story in the previous thread. So you still don't even know the difference between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes despite me trying to educate you a little?! Wow.

Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown. Unlike T1, T2 is not reversible. Please don't ever bring up your daughter's Type 1 diabetes into any similar discussion.

Signed,

Mom of T2 child.

Gosh, I messed up, another correction - should have been 'Unlike T2, T1 is not reversible.'

I just hate that when some people hear a child had T1, they think parents fed her/him too many sweets. Those two types of diabetes should have been named completely different. Because they are fundamentally different.

Since you keep confusing the two, maybe go a little easy on OP then, eh?

+1

That poster cares more about people thinking that she fed her child junk food than she does about science. Sigh.

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Are you kidding? Disney has really good restaurants. With healthy food. Their quick stops at the parks usually have fatty/greasy stuff, but even there you can buy fruit or cut up veggies. The Flying Fish (one of our favorite Disney restaurants) offers filet mignon with asparagus and sweet onion risotto. Scallops with grits and sweet corn. What’s wrong with that?

Are you kidding? I’ve been to at least half of Disney restaurants, the ones where you have to make reservations months in advance and I’m struggling to think of one that I could say had quality food.

If you have ever eaten in French or Italian restaurants you would never think of Disney food as quality.

Please explain how Italian and French restaurants will make filet with asparagus or scallops and sweet corn better. Or how they would be QUALITY.

I am NP who has resisted commenting until now. I am honestly shocked at the responses here. OP is pointing out a system, fueled by capitalism, that presents us with mostly unhealthy choices. Some people make good choices and many others don't.

Anyhow, the meal: dry-packed scallops v. Wet (injected w/salt water for weight.) Grass fed/free range livestock v. factory-farmed beef. As far as vegetables, they could be sourced from local farms and use far less pesticides to produce. The difference in phytonutrients between a couple days and a couple weeks from harvest is significant.

And you happen to know the exact ingredients the French/Italian restaurants use and what Disney uses?

Sorry, I’m not buying your absolute BS. You have no clue. But like to pretend you do.

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DP. I see that the Americans you criticize are in the same boat as you, and I'm not sure how this translates into other individuals here being worse than you. You found yourself in the same boat as them, and you ended up at the same place.

That seems like it should lead to a criticism of corporate interests, etc., not individual people. I mean, I presume you can vote and do whatever advocacy you feel is warranted, just as much as those individuals can, and that it has just the same odds of success.

That’s the point. We should be advocating for healthy school lunches and regulating food industry, setting standards for restaurant and store bought food and their marketing campaigns.

But no one cares. Like this thread people think it’s about personal choice and don’t hold the system accountable.

Stop generalising. We ALL care. Just because we do not agree with your conclusions re: the cause of the problem does not mean we don't care.

I live in one of the countries people on the thread like to believe is full of slim, healthy people. In truth, that was true in the recent past, when it was harder to get junk food: people ate healthier because that was what everyone around them was doing and what was available, not because they chose healthy food over junk. Now that the junk is available easily here, suddenly there are many more overweight people. Clearly there is a component of education and choice here: you aren't going to get governments to ban junk, but you can educate people about what healthy food choices look like and how to choose and prepare them.

Food education does jack-all long term. This is an idealistic myth.

You want health risks associated with junk food to go down? Regulate it like alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes. But all the junk food addicts in this thread -- and that includes the ones boasting about how skinny they are -- will fight it like the addicts they are.

Literally nothing will change until kids are banned from junk food the way they are banned from alcohol and cigarettes, but that will never happen. So welcome to a spiraling health crisis. It's going to get worse, not better.

Why does OP refuse to say where she is from?

Anonymous wrote:“Wake up, SHEEPLE! You’re living in a CAGE and you don’t even KNOW IT! You think you’re FREE!!

…And so, in conclusion, I believe the government should be in complete control of what citizens are allowed to eat.”

That's a good summary of OP's main argument, such as it is.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

You are so indoctrinated in some "you are responsible, the pioneer spirit, the individualism" that you never stopped to think about it. This country was not built on individualism, that is a myth.
It is so sad that instead of realizing that we elect officials that we expect to take care of [b]us! bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!
Some democracy, right? But, if that person did the job YOU elected them to do, they would improve education, with better education will come better nutrition, with health and education which so many are denied, not don't want it, they are denied it, they will demand accountability from conglomerates, and demand their government regulates the food industry.
Instead, you are just as stupid as those that you claim are obese and don't want to take care of themselves! Think about the deception you are a willing participant in! You are in favor of the system that kills your family members!
Now, if that is not the height of stupidity, I don't know what is!

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1. I'm not the poster to whom you are responding, but I agree with that poster.

2. You are a terrible writer. I feel kind of bad for you.

3. Google Dunning-Kruger effect.

I write well enough. It is not my fault that complex sentences are beyond your reading comprehension.

Most educated people are going to be put off by your childish, fragmented structure, grammar issues, and your little-kid habit of ending almost every sentence with an exclamation point. Truly, you are doing yourself no favors, nor are you convincing anyone of whatever your ideas might be with these poorly constructed rants.

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Anonymous wrote:While we have barely any money for school lunches, we somehow have trillions to invade other countries! And donate, and "aid" the world.

"The National School Lunch Program provides low-cost or free school lunches to 31 million students at more than 100,000 public and private schools per day. Meals must meet nutritional standards based on the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.

Participating schools receive approximately $1.30 to spend for each child. This amount must cover the food, as well as any labor, equipment, electricity, and other costs. School food programs also depend on income from students who often pay for the food they eat.

Tight budgets make serving healthier foods challenging."

And many of the parents that can’t send their kids to school with lunch can afford iPhones, dogs, and other things less important than their children’s food

I have an iphone. I cannot afford good food for mysef 5 days a week, much less for my kid who might through it in garbage. I asked him to bring the apple home they get at school since apples are about $1 piece and he said that he is not allowed and has to throw it out. System is messed up. How dare you blame it on few items you deem "luxury". Iphone is not a luxury nowadays. It's a necessity. You lose more money not having internet and apps that help you save money on your fingertips. This is not 1980's.
Again, Iphone pays for itself if you use it well. A dog might be cheaper than ADT. You don't know that.
Point is that good food is expensive in American and kids don't even eat it because parents could never get them hooked on it. Yet another way American separates haves and have nots. I poorer countries, have nots have land and grow good food. American farmer can feed the whole world. We never thought that the food they produce can be turned into junk and fed to us.

This is really not true at all. Try lentils and beans for cheap, nutritious protein to bulk up dishes. Experiment with spices. Buy vegetables and fruits in season. Try tinned sardines for (very) cheap, (very) nutritious protein: these are delicious when properly seasoned and used in salads or on toast. Buy chicken breasts in bulk when on sale and freeze them, and don't make the main meal all about a huge chunk of meat. These are just a few examples of super cheap options for preparing nutritious, healthy food that tastes good.

If you aren't a good cook or don't know what to do with spices, etc., look online for recipes. Learning to cook well with healthy ingredients will program your kids to like eating that way. Don't be lazy. Stop shrieking that it is too expensive to eat healthily and listen to the people here and the many online sources you can find that explain why this isn't true and offer you alternatives.

“Wake up, SHEEPLE! You’re living in a CAGE and you don’t even KNOW IT! You think you’re FREE!!

…And so, in conclusion, I believe the government should be in complete control of what citizens are allowed to eat.”

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

You are so indoctrinated in some "you are responsible, the pioneer spirit, the individualism" that you never stopped to think about it. This country was not built on individualism, that is a myth.
It is so sad that instead of realizing that we elect officials that we expect to take care of [b]us! bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!
Some democracy, right? But, if that person did the job YOU elected them to do, they would improve education, with better education will come better nutrition, with health and education which so many are denied, not don't want it, they are denied it, they will demand accountability from conglomerates, and demand their government regulates the food industry.
Instead, you are just as stupid as those that you claim are obese and don't want to take care of themselves! Think about the deception you are a willing participant in! You are in favor of the system that kills your family members!
Now, if that is not the height of stupidity, I don't know what is!

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1. I'm not the poster to whom you are responding, but I agree with that poster.

2. You are a terrible writer. I feel kind of bad for you.

3. Google Dunning-Kruger effect.

I write well enough. It is not my fault that complex sentences are beyond your reading comprehension.

Well, let's take a look, shall we?

"bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!"

There is not one grammatically correct sentence in this incoherent tangle. In fact, many of your "sentences" are not sentences at all, let alone what you believe to be "complex sentences." You have poor writing skills because your grammar is terrible AND you struggle with logic/ideas. You need to read more and listen more. Really.

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Anonymous wrote:While we have barely any money for school lunches, we somehow have trillions to invade other countries! And donate, and "aid" the world.

"The National School Lunch Program provides low-cost or free school lunches to 31 million students at more than 100,000 public and private schools per day. Meals must meet nutritional standards based on the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.

Participating schools receive approximately $1.30 to spend for each child. This amount must cover the food, as well as any labor, equipment, electricity, and other costs. School food programs also depend on income from students who often pay for the food they eat.

Tight budgets make serving healthier foods challenging."

And many of the parents that can’t send their kids to school with lunch can afford iPhones, dogs, and other things less important than their children’s food

I have an iphone. I cannot afford good food for mysef 5 days a week, much less for my kid who might through it in garbage. I asked him to bring the apple home they get at school since apples are about $1 piece and he said that he is not allowed and has to throw it out. System is messed up. How dare you blame it on few items you deem "luxury". Iphone is not a luxury nowadays. It's a necessity. You lose more money not having internet and apps that help you save money on your fingertips. This is not 1980's.
Again, Iphone pays for itself if you use it well. A dog might be cheaper than ADT. You don't know that.
Point is that good food is expensive in American and kids don't even eat it because parents could never get them hooked on it. Yet another way American separates haves and have nots. I poorer countries, have nots have land and grow good food. American farmer can feed the whole world. We never thought that the food they produce can be turned into junk and fed to us.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

You are so indoctrinated in some "you are responsible, the pioneer spirit, the individualism" that you never stopped to think about it. This country was not built on individualism, that is a myth.
It is so sad that instead of realizing that we elect officials that we expect to take care of [b]us! bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!
Some democracy, right? But, if that person did the job YOU elected them to do, they would improve education, with better education will come better nutrition, with health and education which so many are denied, not don't want it, they are denied it, they will demand accountability from conglomerates, and demand their government regulates the food industry.
Instead, you are just as stupid as those that you claim are obese and don't want to take care of themselves! Think about the deception you are a willing participant in! You are in favor of the system that kills your family members!
Now, if that is not the height of stupidity, I don't know what is!

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1. I'm not the poster to whom you are responding, but I agree with that poster.

2. You are a terrible writer. I feel kind of bad for you.

3. Google Dunning-Kruger effect.

I write well enough. It is not my fault that complex sentences are beyond your reading comprehension.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Eating “heathy” isn’t expensive. That has been discussed over and over and just isn’t true. But people just don’t care. There are no kids going to school literally starving. The poor kids are all over fed crap and school just piles it on too. You want school to serve a heathy “French style” lunch? It will get tossed in the garbage (but eating the roll of course) and the kid will open a bag of Funyuns when they get home.

That is maybe true in some groups and utterly false in other groups. I shop at Aldi, in Gaithersburg, and Silver Spring. Most other patrons are like me, immigrants. They all have carts full of veggies, rice, and dry beans! I see people from all over the world, the other day a mom and I chatted, she came to Lidl in Glenmont and bought a two-pack of blackberries for herself and kids. That's it! She loves them, she said, the reason we spoke is that we waited for a long time. She then picked change to pay for them. She and I and all the others want our kids to eat healthily. I saw an older man, buying only fruits and veggies at Aldi. All the time I see what you might call "don't care about food people" buying healthy choices at the same shops I am at. Looking for a good deal and healthier foods. I can't afford Whole Foods!
Now if you know Aldi, you know that produce is a hit and miss most of the time. Who doesn't seem to care, based on my observations, are those that are raised here. Meaning raised and used to crappy food.
And why do they like it? Because that is all they had because the government let corporations abuse their customers for profit.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Eating “heathy” isn’t expensive. That has been discussed over and over and just isn’t true. But people just don’t care. There are no kids going to school literally starving. The poor kids are all over fed crap and school just piles it on too. You want school to serve a heathy “French style” lunch? It will get tossed in the garbage (but eating the roll of course) and the kid will open a bag of Funyuns when they get home.

FYI. French food doesn’t mean healthy food. They use plenty of cream, cheese and other fats like bacon. Each of us need to create our own healthy style. But I agree with you that eating healthy isn’t expensive.

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And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

And how’s that working for us? Oh, wait, it doesn’t. It simply doesn’t work because we have 40+% of population obese and a very sickly last generations.
And to say that it’s because they’re all irresponsible slobs who made poor choices is basically avoiding responsibility as a country, as a system.

Yes, they are responsible. All of them. It’s working great for us. We feed our kids healthy meals , don’t overeat, and exercise regularly. It is completely doable to be healthy if you make it a priority. I can’t help those that don’t. But let that 40% wait for the government to make them healthier. That’ll work out just great for their health

Translation:
Yes, I am rich and I am educated and had time to look into this. While paying for my nails and hair to be done between the gym and a walk with friends. I have money to buy healthy food, and time to get it ready of pay someone to get it done.

Real life translation: I am rich, effe off.

Again, won't take responsibility because you think eating well is only for the rich. It's so easy to blame other people - rich, government, schools, other. It is on you. Period.

And yes, I work a full time job. A busy one. I don't have time for hair or nails, or the gym. Why? Because I put other things - like making food for my family - first. So I don't have time for shopping, nails and other luxuries. But you can pretend, right?

I come from a family that is flanked by morbid obesity - one side is Mex-American the other small town Midwest. Both are statistically more prone to obesity than many other groups in the US. I've had multiple cousins die of obesity related illnesses and it wasn't pretty. They died before their time and refused to do anything to make themselves healthier. And nearly all my cousins and extended family are the same. It is so damn sad. IF only they had taken personal responsibility and done something about it. So you can sit around and blame the government all you want. But in the interim if people don't take responsibility for themselves they will die. Period. Take your pick. Cake or death?

I am skinny too, my mom is obese. That doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. Like you are.

Dude, if you think asking people to take care of themselves is being an a-hole then you operate in a different reality. Life is hard and no one will take care of you. IF you sit around and wait for government coddling, you'll be SOL. I take care of my family and expect people to do the same for theirs. This is how we solve obesity. Not by saying that "big is beautiful" or assuming that people cannot take care of themselves. It is not. It is heart disease, diabetes, increased rates of cancer, and watching people die young. After watching family die young, I will always reject that notion.

You are so indoctrinated in some "you are responsible, the pioneer spirit, the individualism" that you never stopped to think about it. This country was not built on individualism, that is a myth.
It is so sad that instead of realizing that we elect officials that we expect to take care of [b]us! bcs we elect them to do what is right? no? members of your family might not have died! This is how we solve poverty and obesity. By educating people. When you elect officials and they do what is right for big pharma and agro-industry, you elected someone that is working against your well-being!
Some democracy, right? But, if that person did the job YOU elected them to do, they would improve education, with better education will come better nutrition, with health and education which so many are denied, not don't want it, they are denied it, they will demand accountability from conglomerates, and demand their government regulates the food industry.
Instead, you are just as stupid as those that you claim are obese and don't want to take care of themselves! Think about the deception you are a willing participant in! You are in favor of the system that kills your family members!
Now, if that is not the height of stupidity, I don't know what is!

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1. I'm not the poster to whom you are responding, but I agree with that poster.

2. You are a terrible writer. I feel kind of bad for you.

3. Google Dunning-Kruger effect.

Anonymous wrote:I lived in 5 industrial countries, other than in the U.S. it is not like this in all of them!
What a thing to say!
Maybe in fatso England!

No. First, learn how to quote in a thread so that people can tell what you are attempting to respond to/address.

You are wrong. And I don't believe you have lived in those 5 countries. Name them: go head.