Anonymous wrote:There is only so much a school system can do to create equal outcomes among different races. Some people prioritize education and some people don't.

We don't have to 'value' education, how about starting in HS we start letting them learn actual vocational skills to get into a trade. Not every student will go to college or wants to. We should teach people how to get out of poverty. Our school system is poor.

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Anonymous wrote:My problem with the language is that it if shifting the blame to white parents. The problems in DCPS are long and varied, and have deep roots is systemic racism. DCPS needs to own it and invest in those schools accordingly.

And by invest: I mean crazy low class numbers, combat pay for teachers at those schools, and addressing the needs of students.

It's because 99% of the white parents in DC are all middle class or rich. It's not necessarily about 'white' but about the things wealthier parents provide for schools. If they could spread some of that privilege out more students could benefit.

However, I think this approach is highly idiotic. How about we give 2 social workers to title 1 schools, a reading and math specialist, and 1 more position based on the needs of that school? Oh but wait, DCPS would have to shell out the money for that themselves.

I am not white, however I myself send my child to a non-title 1 school (even though I work at one). Not because there are 'nice white children' but because my school does receive extras, I see a huge difference between the school I work at and my child's school. I want my child to have access to the best things, without private. I went to private schools and I don't think my child needs it.

I think many of the schools do have these resources. The issues can't be fixed in the schools easily at age 5 or 10 or 15. I'm a case manager for a Medicaid plan in DC and I work with kids at these schools every day. The level of dysfunction that many kids grow up in the home on a daily basis would blow your mind. It blows mine and
I've been doing this job for many years. There's NO way a school can fix this and turn out high achieving kids with just another social worker on staff. The ones that do succeed are superheros.

No, they don't have enough. Social workers in schools are way over worked, and schools only get 1 specialist, not 2 (unless they get a special petition or have a lot of students) And they definitely don't get an extra anything specifically based on their school.

Schools cannot fix a child's home life but they can teach them how to deal with it and build resilience. We can teach them to break the cycle of poverty. The issue is the school's resources are low, 1 social worker and specialist isn't enough.

There is only so much a school system can do to create equal outcomes among different races. Some people prioritize education and some people don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Gag. So over all the woke nonsense. Time to move.

Imagine if the title was “and mitigate the _______ing of the feeder pattern.”

If you put any other race, but white, you’d be branded a racist.

Well yea, that’s the point. White people have had a systemic advantage for ever, which is what DCPS is working to eradicate. This thread is like 20 pages long of ppl missing that.

- White teacher who understands that it’s okay to admit that we’ve had a ridiculous head start

you’re missing the point. there’s a huge difference between “mitigating whitening” and providing opportunities for black students.

Yes, it’s from the perspective of someone who hasn’t had the advantages white people get. Let it go and stop being offended over stupid stuff. You can get mad at woke people if you are clutching your pearls over this.

I have heard talk of locating a new high school at the Lord & Taylor site in Friendship Heights instead of Palisades. That is a much better idea than Palisades. So much more accessible as it is right on the metro and has a bus hub. Easier to drive to as well from east of the park. I hear parents talking about it but I wonder if DC is considering it.

Anonymous wrote:They can’t stop rich people on seeing where the access is and buying out the poor. It’s why Shepherd park will mostly white again in a decade or so. Once the prices go up the clock starts. Feeder patterns? Wilson will be very white in a decade

Once again - the blame it on white people crap. The intent of school selection is trying to do what is best for your child. Nobody dives into real estate with the intent to stick it to a child with limited resources. Let me repeat: demand better from Bowser and Ferebee - stop the blame game on those who seek out Wilson feeders and invest in real estate to do so. Does not get you anywhere to blame others.

They can’t stop rich people on seeing where the access is and buying out the poor. It’s why Shepherd park will mostly white again in a decade or so. Once the prices go up the clock starts. Feeder patterns? Wilson will be very white in a decade

I think the DC government should stop perpetuating systemic racism by handing favorable zoning to private schools and catering to them. Then, DCPS students get the scraps of the private's properties that are too inconvenient for the wealthy. This is not DCPS pushing to alleviate systemic racism; it's the opposite.

So River and GDS move to the convenience of Tenleytown and DCPS students are pushed out to the Palisades where GDS and River didn't want to be. Seems rather messed up to me.

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Anonymous wrote:My problem with the language is that it if shifting the blame to white parents. The problems in DCPS are long and varied, and have deep roots is systemic racism. DCPS needs to own it and invest in those schools accordingly.

And by invest: I mean crazy low class numbers, combat pay for teachers at those schools, and addressing the needs of students.

It's because 99% of the white parents in DC are all middle class or rich. It's not necessarily about 'white' but about the things wealthier parents provide for schools. If they could spread some of that privilege out more students could benefit.

However, I think this approach is highly idiotic. How about we give 2 social workers to title 1 schools, a reading and math specialist, and 1 more position based on the needs of that school? Oh but wait, DCPS would have to shell out the money for that themselves.

I am not white, however I myself send my child to a non-title 1 school (even though I work at one). Not because there are 'nice white children' but because my school does receive extras, I see a huge difference between the school I work at and my child's school. I want my child to have access to the best things, without private. I went to private schools and I don't think my child needs it.

I think many of the schools do have these resources. The issues can't be fixed in the schools easily at age 5 or 10 or 15. I'm a case manager for a Medicaid plan in DC and I work with kids at these schools every day. The level of dysfunction that many kids grow up in the home on a daily basis would blow your mind. It blows mine and
I've been doing this job for many years. There's NO way a school can fix this and turn out high achieving kids with just another social worker on staff. The ones that do succeed are superheros.

Previous poster again---I'm referring to the kids that succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:My problem with the language is that it if shifting the blame to white parents. The problems in DCPS are long and varied, and have deep roots is systemic racism. DCPS needs to own it and invest in those schools accordingly.

And by invest: I mean crazy low class numbers, combat pay for teachers at those schools, and addressing the needs of students.

It's because 99% of the white parents in DC are all middle class or rich. It's not necessarily about 'white' but about the things wealthier parents provide for schools. If they could spread some of that privilege out more students could benefit.

However, I think this approach is highly idiotic. How about we give 2 social workers to title 1 schools, a reading and math specialist, and 1 more position based on the needs of that school? Oh but wait, DCPS would have to shell out the money for that themselves.

I am not white, however I myself send my child to a non-title 1 school (even though I work at one). Not because there are 'nice white children' but because my school does receive extras, I see a huge difference between the school I work at and my child's school. I want my child to have access to the best things, without private. I went to private schools and I don't think my child needs it.

I think many of the schools do have these resources. The issues can't be fixed in the schools easily at age 5 or 10 or 15. I'm a case manager for a Medicaid plan in DC and I work with kids at these schools every day. The level of dysfunction that many kids grow up in the home on a daily basis would blow your mind. It blows mine and
I've been doing this job for many years. There's NO way a school can fix this and turn out high achieving kids with just another social worker on staff. The ones that do succeed are superheros.

Anonymous wrote:My problem with the language is that it if shifting the blame to white parents. The problems in DCPS are long and varied, and have deep roots is systemic racism. DCPS needs to own it and invest in those schools accordingly.

And by invest: I mean crazy low class numbers, combat pay for teachers at those schools, and addressing the needs of students.

It's because 99% of the white parents in DC are all middle class or rich. It's not necessarily about 'white' but about the things wealthier parents provide for schools. If they could spread some of that privilege out more students could benefit.

However, I think this approach is highly idiotic. How about we give 2 social workers to title 1 schools, a reading and math specialist, and 1 more position based on the needs of that school? Oh but wait, DCPS would have to shell out the money for that themselves.

I am not white, however I myself send my child to a non-title 1 school (even though I work at one). Not because there are 'nice white children' but because my school does receive extras, I see a huge difference between the school I work at and my child's school. I want my child to have access to the best things, without private. I went to private schools and I don't think my child needs it.

My problem with the language is that it if shifting the blame to white parents. The problems in DCPS are long and varied, and have deep roots is systemic racism. DCPS needs to own it and invest in those schools accordingly.

And by invest: I mean crazy low class numbers, combat pay for teachers at those schools, and addressing the needs of students.

Anonymous wrote:The super weird thing about the idea of 'mitigating whitening' is that what is causing the whitening is more and more WOTP families are choosing public schools. That should be celebrated, and adapted to, with strategies to preserve and promote socioeconomic and ethnic diversity (I'm the PP who wrote that earlier), while welcoming back into the public school system the families that had historically eschewed public schools for privates or moved.

From a social progress perspective, have more WOTP families chose public is not a problem to mitigate, it is a fantastic development to take into account as we work toward integration.

completely agree with you!

The super weird thing about the idea of 'mitigating whitening' is that what is causing the whitening is more and more WOTP families are choosing public schools. That should be celebrated, and adapted to, with strategies to preserve and promote socioeconomic and ethnic diversity (I'm the PP who wrote that earlier), while welcoming back into the public school system the families that had historically eschewed public schools for privates or moved.

From a social progress perspective, have more WOTP families chose public is not a problem to mitigate, it is a fantastic development to take into account as we work toward integration.

Agree with your second paragraph.

As for your first, my family was very poor during the Depression (evicted onto the street poor) and they dug themselves out with hard work. However, they had the GI Bill and they were not redlined.