Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
+1 But we're definitely and defiantly NOT SORRY. It is our choice to keep our kids home during a pandemic. They're happy and learning. Deal with it shriekers and screamers. We don't have to send our kids to school just because you're losing it.
You’re the one shouting on the Internet and we’re the “shriekers and screamers” who are “losing it”? You know what projection is, right?
LOL. Clearly you don't know what it means. Buy a mirror.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
But your's will be short-changed. Guarantee it. There is simply no way that kids at home can have the same or as good of an experience. Sorry.
Are you kidding me with that? DP.
Our kids are having a MUCH better experience at home than they have had at school. No more class time lost to knuckleheads who are acting out and needing attention. No more having to sit through the teacher reviewing material yet again because some yoyo was in the bathroom for the 40th time that day and came back needing to find out how to log in to the app they were using. No more having work interrupted because some kid thought it would be funny to fart and then start passing gas continuously. All of those knuckleheads have been completely minimized with DL. Good riddance.
The kids who are left are getting a first class education and staying on track. More power to them.
+1
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
And, once again, I will ask you who is going to replace the teachers? Look, I agree that schools should be open, I am in MCPS and am happy to be back. But all these “fire the teachers” and “these teachers all need to quit” is totally tone deaf and, quite frankly, idiotic.
Teachers have been holding us hostage with threats to quit for a full year. And frankly, they are no good to us at home are being paid double what a virtual teacher makes. Maybe they will quit And maybe the replacements won’t be great. But, if it’s going to happen, we are just kicking the can down the road. If they are going to quit when they have to go back, they are going to quit. We can’t go on another full year like this. Because teachers will still be threatening to quit. I’m over the threats. Put up so we have time to plan. Or STFU.
We are a two teacher (ES) household and I think you ware way overestimating the number of teachers who have threatened to quit. Neither of us can think of anyone we know who has actually threatened to quit over the prospect of teaching in person. If anything they are thinking of quitting because of DL and/or concurrent instruction.
Anyone with common sense knows teachers have no say and most are going back. Those that are quitting have health issues, family issues or are scared and that's perfectly fine given COVID. If parents don't like it, they can step up and become teachers since they think they can do it better. Or better, homeschool.
No thanks. I’ll keep my fully telework job that pays a lot more.
And I’ll keep doing my telework job, teaching your child. Sick of these hypocrites.
Not after this year in VA. SB1303 forces you back in the classroom.
Plus, it’s not my fault I chose a more flexible, better paying career path than you. The wasn’t a secret when you got a teaching degree. Neither was the fact you would be working in a classroom. Your job can’t be done well from home. Mine can, because I made different choices.
Please read SB1303 a bit closer, there are some cases that will allow teachers to stay virtual.
Shhhh, don't confuse them with facts. They just want to be pseudo-self-righteous and throw temper tantrums about teachers holding them "hostage."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
And, once again, I will ask you who is going to replace the teachers? Look, I agree that schools should be open, I am in MCPS and am happy to be back. But all these “fire the teachers” and “these teachers all need to quit” is totally tone deaf and, quite frankly, idiotic.
Teachers have been holding us hostage with threats to quit for a full year. And frankly, they are no good to us at home are being paid double what a virtual teacher makes. Maybe they will quit And maybe the replacements won’t be great. But, if it’s going to happen, we are just kicking the can down the road. If they are going to quit when they have to go back, they are going to quit. We can’t go on another full year like this. Because teachers will still be threatening to quit. I’m over the threats. Put up so we have time to plan. Or STFU.
We are a two teacher (ES) household and I think you ware way overestimating the number of teachers who have threatened to quit. Neither of us can think of anyone we know who has actually threatened to quit over the prospect of teaching in person. If anything they are thinking of quitting because of DL and/or concurrent instruction.
Anyone with common sense knows teachers have no say and most are going back. Those that are quitting have health issues, family issues or are scared and that's perfectly fine given COVID. If parents don't like it, they can step up and become teachers since they think they can do it better. Or better, homeschool.
No thanks. I’ll keep my fully telework job that pays a lot more.
And I’ll keep doing my telework job, teaching your child. Sick of these hypocrites.
Not after this year in VA. SB1303 forces you back in the classroom.
Plus, it’s not my fault I chose a more flexible, better paying career path than you. The wasn’t a secret when you got a teaching degree. Neither was the fact you would be working in a classroom. Your job can’t be done well from home. Mine can, because I made different choices.
Please read SB1303 a bit closer, there are some cases that will allow teachers to stay virtual.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
And, once again, I will ask you who is going to replace the teachers? Look, I agree that schools should be open, I am in MCPS and am happy to be back. But all these “fire the teachers” and “these teachers all need to quit” is totally tone deaf and, quite frankly, idiotic.
Teachers have been holding us hostage with threats to quit for a full year. And frankly, they are no good to us at home are being paid double what a virtual teacher makes. Maybe they will quit And maybe the replacements won’t be great. But, if it’s going to happen, we are just kicking the can down the road. If they are going to quit when they have to go back, they are going to quit. We can’t go on another full year like this. Because teachers will still be threatening to quit. I’m over the threats. Put up so we have time to plan. Or STFU.
We are a two teacher (ES) household and I think you ware way overestimating the number of teachers who have threatened to quit. Neither of us can think of anyone we know who has actually threatened to quit over the prospect of teaching in person. If anything they are thinking of quitting because of DL and/or concurrent instruction.
Anyone with common sense knows teachers have no say and most are going back. Those that are quitting have health issues, family issues or are scared and that's perfectly fine given COVID. If parents don't like it, they can step up and become teachers since they think they can do it better. Or better, homeschool.
No thanks. I’ll keep my fully telework job that pays a lot more.
And I’ll keep doing my telework job, teaching your child. Sick of these hypocrites.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
And, once again, I will ask you who is going to replace the teachers? Look, I agree that schools should be open, I am in MCPS and am happy to be back. But all these “fire the teachers” and “these teachers all need to quit” is totally tone deaf and, quite frankly, idiotic.
Teachers have been holding us hostage with threats to quit for a full year. And frankly, they are no good to us at home are being paid double what a virtual teacher makes. Maybe they will quit And maybe the replacements won’t be great. But, if it’s going to happen, we are just kicking the can down the road. If they are going to quit when they have to go back, they are going to quit. We can’t go on another full year like this. Because teachers will still be threatening to quit. I’m over the threats. Put up so we have time to plan. Or STFU.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
CPs has proven they can’t stand p a school based DL system. Brabrand says for legit medical emotions only, scaled down. Teachers and the union say no concurrent. HS will go to FCPS online. MS may be able to. ES will go to Virtal VA or FCPS equivalent. Not AAP, not immersion Mandarin, not with base school staff, and not without a real reason. Sorry / Not Sorry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
But your's will be short-changed. Guarantee it. There is simply no way that kids at home can have the same or as good of an experience. Sorry.
Are you kidding me with that? DP.
Our kids are having a MUCH better experience at home than they have had at school. No more class time lost to knuckleheads who are acting out and needing attention. No more having to sit through the teacher reviewing material yet again because some yoyo was in the bathroom for the 40th time that day and came back needing to find out how to log in to the app they were using. No more having work interrupted because some kid thought it would be funny to fart and then start passing gas continuously. All of those knuckleheads have been completely minimized with DL. Good riddance.
The kids who are left are getting a first class education and staying on track. More power to them.[/
So you are holding everyone else hostage so your snowflake can stay at home? Your snowflake needs to learn to deal with the real world which has many disruptions. Your selfish attitude is hurting so many families. Enroll in a virtual school if this is how you feel and the rest of us will get ourselves vaccinated, follow science and do what is best for most kids. Bye.
The minute you call someone a "snowflake,'" you out yourself as a hysterical.idiot and you lose the argument. Girl, bye.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
But your's will be short-changed. Guarantee it. There is simply no way that kids at home can have the same or as good of an experience. Sorry.
Are you kidding me with that? DP.
Our kids are having a MUCH better experience at home than they have had at school. No more class time lost to knuckleheads who are acting out and needing attention. No more having to sit through the teacher reviewing material yet again because some yoyo was in the bathroom for the 40th time that day and came back needing to find out how to log in to the app they were using. No more having work interrupted because some kid thought it would be funny to fart and then start passing gas continuously. All of those knuckleheads have been completely minimized with DL. Good riddance.
The kids who are left are getting a first class education and staying on track. More power to them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once adults are vaccinated, if you want your kids learning at home then pull them and homeschool. This has always been an option.
No, thank you. We don't have to do that and we won't. We will utilize the distance learning which the district will provide as long as we have unvaccinated students in a pandemic.
Guess your precious in-person kids will just have to share resources. Sorry.
+1 But we're definitely and defiantly NOT SORRY. It is our choice to keep our kids home during a pandemic. They're happy and learning. Deal with it shriekers and screamers. We don't have to send our kids to school just because you're losing it.
You’re the one shouting on the Internet and we’re the “shriekers and screamers” who are “losing it”? You know what projection is, right?
Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous. School is not childcare because it is a unique and stand alone institution. It is school. It has been a huge part of the fabric of society for thousands of years. Yes, parents for the large part have expected that their children will attend a school in person, obviously, given that much of what occurs at school is social and emotional learning. Those that think their kids don’t need this are likely in for a rude awakening at some point, like the kids that we home schooled that I knew that arrived at college and went berserk, but that is of no moment. It is not developmentally appropriate for children of many ages, dispositions or needs to do school at home with a computer. The idea that one parent is to for who working for their children’s entire school years should be simply expected is similarly not only entirely unfair to women but also antiquated and at bottom, would result in a return to a private school model for almost all children who could afford it - and many many more affordable options would pop up- and a huge decline of the public schools. Those is MCPS for example would revolt against the school tax.
At bottom, the arguments some teachers have made in these forums re parents looking for “childcare” and it being entirely fine never to return to school reflect a fundamental lack of their job, the function of school in society, how our tax and economic structure work, and absolutely no respect for the children or families they serve.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers are allowed to value their health more than some random kid's education. Something is wrong with a teacher if the teacher values a kid's education more than their own health. Give it a rest, angry parents. Get some therapy, develop a value system, and start to realize that it isn't all about you.
- Signed, a Parent
I agree! If a teacher isn't comfortable teaching in person despite being prioritized for vaccines, then she needs to find a different career.
Then who will teach the children? Places are desperate for teachers, look on the careers page for the counties. They are trying to lure back retired teachers. All these flippant remarks that teachers should just quit or be fired are so ridiculous.
Yes, but the nasty comments make the entitled parents FEEEL so good when they type them and helps them pretend to have power, and really, that's what's important.
Yep!
We got schools open this year. We have put a lot of pressure on FCPs to get some kids back 4 days. We got the SB passed requiring 5 days a week, in person, with a real love teacher, not an ADA slacker. We will vote for Governor this fall and schools will be a huge issue. We’ve had a lot of people do a 180 on vouchers and charter schools. We’ve put a lot of pressure on the NoS not to give teachers raises. And down the line, bonds go through us.
So yes, we have some power. Show up in person in August and teach 5 Das a week from your classroom to a full class of kids. Or be fired. No more monitors and ADA. We did that.
And, once again, I will ask you who is going to replace the teachers? Look, I agree that schools should be open, I am in MCPS and am happy to be back. But all these “fire the teachers” and “these teachers all need to quit” is totally tone deaf and, quite frankly, idiotic.
Teachers have been holding us hostage with threats to quit for a full year. And frankly, they are no good to us at home are being paid double what a virtual teacher makes. Maybe they will quit And maybe the replacements won’t be great. But, if it’s going to happen, we are just kicking the can down the road. If they are going to quit when they have to go back, they are going to quit. We can’t go on another full year like this. Because teachers will still be threatening to quit. I’m over the threats. Put up so we have time to plan. Or STFU.
We are a two teacher (ES) household and I think you ware way overestimating the number of teachers who have threatened to quit. Neither of us can think of anyone we know who has actually threatened to quit over the prospect of teaching in person. If anything they are thinking of quitting because of DL and/or concurrent instruction.
Anyone with common sense knows teachers have no say and most are going back. Those that are quitting have health issues, family issues or are scared and that's perfectly fine given COVID. If parents don't like it, they can step up and become teachers since they think they can do it better. Or better, homeschool.
No thanks. I’ll keep my fully telework job that pays a lot more.
And I’ll keep doing my telework job, teaching your child. Sick of these hypocrites.
Not after this year in VA. SB1303 forces you back in the classroom.
Plus, it’s not my fault I chose a more flexible, better paying career path than you. The wasn’t a secret when you got a teaching degree. Neither was the fact you would be working in a classroom. Your job can’t be done well from home. Mine can, because I made different choices.
I don’t teach in the state of Virginia, and I’ll be home for the rest of the year. Teachers made no such agreement to work in a classroom during a global health crisis.
Sure, and the public made no agreement to pay teachers that refuse to return to work. You can always quit.
So you think your telework job is real work, but not anyone else’s. Got it.
You are replying to a different poster. But yes, I’m a Fed attorney who does very complicated analysis and writing as my primary job responsibilities. I am not public facing and don’t work as a member of a team. I was 60% telework before COVID. I’m 100% now, and it looks like they may just not require us to go back. My productivity is actually higher from home, because I’m not constantly interrupted by co-workers who want to chat. And I can perform all of my job functions exactly the same way as I did in the office. We need one manger in per floor to pick up things that need to be printed and mailed from the printer and put them in an envelope. That’s it.
Some jobs translate very well into telework. I took my job when I had tweens to get the telework, so between DH and I, someone was always home after school. It was a career choice and I took a pay cut to move to the federal government.
You made the choice to have a public facing job that does not translate well to telework.
It is not some secret that telework is a great option for some jobs and a very poor one for others. You can do what I did, and take a pay cut and teach virtually for FCPS online of Virtual VA. They will need to staff up for next year. But, you don’t want to make the trade off many other professionals have made to get telework friendly jobs.