Anonymous wrote:Don't want to be videotaped stay home. She failed to comply with park laws regarding her dog and then wasted 911 time wit a fake call. F**k her and I'm glad she lost her dog and job.

Did she actually lose the job? The employer said she had been placed on administrative leave while they looked into the matter. That's the next step to being terminated but I had not heard that she was terminated. I fully believe she should be terminated if it is a violation of policy to behave in a way that creates reputational risks to the company. I am sure they are worried about losing clients over her outrageous and racist behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did he want to feed the dog?

I think he was giving treats to the dog to lure it out of the bushes where it was disrupting the birds.

no, he was using it as leverage to scare her into leashing her dog. it’s clear that he’s the one that started the escalation. her escalation may have been unjustified but it didn’t come out of nowhere.

His choice to call the dog to him didn't come out of nowhere. She was breaking the law and endangering something he cared about by doing so. Her refusal to leash the dog is what escalated a situation in which she was already breaking the law.

Calling the dog to him, since it was running stray, and turning it over to animal control (which I doubt he was going to do) would have been totally reasonable.

yeah, no way he would have done this to a big dude with a pitbull.

That's irrelevant.

yes it is relevant. he felt comfortable escalating with a small woman.

Ha. You're so wrong! She felt comfortable escalating with a black man because she knew the police would come and take him away. Did you even see the video? She wasn't scared at all. She knew she was protected regardless of where she was. There was no fear in her.

Don't want to be videotaped stay home. She failed to comply with park laws regarding her dog and then wasted 911 time wit a fake call. F**k her and I'm glad she lost her dog and job.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did he want to feed the dog?

I think he was giving treats to the dog to lure it out of the bushes where it was disrupting the birds.

no, he was using it as leverage to scare her into leashing her dog. it’s clear that he’s the one that started the escalation. her escalation may have been unjustified but it didn’t come out of nowhere.

His choice to call the dog to him didn't come out of nowhere. She was breaking the law and endangering something he cared about by doing so. Her refusal to leash the dog is what escalated a situation in which she was already breaking the law.

Calling the dog to him, since it was running stray, and turning it over to animal control (which I doubt he was going to do) would have been totally reasonable.

yeah, no way he would have done this to a big dude with a pitbull.

...and there's no way she would have done this to a white person. So what's your point?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did he want to feed the dog?

I think he was giving treats to the dog to lure it out of the bushes where it was disrupting the birds.

no, he was using it as leverage to scare her into leashing her dog. it’s clear that he’s the one that started the escalation. her escalation may have been unjustified but it didn’t come out of nowhere.

His choice to call the dog to him didn't come out of nowhere. She was breaking the law and endangering something he cared about by doing so. Her refusal to leash the dog is what escalated a situation in which she was already breaking the law.

Calling the dog to him, since it was running stray, and turning it over to animal control (which I doubt he was going to do) would have been totally reasonable.

yeah, no way he would have done this to a big dude with a pitbull.

That's irrelevant.

yes it is relevant. he felt comfortable escalating with a small woman.

I think then the small woman should have recognized that he was escalating and quickly left the area to protect herself, no? She felt safe and comfortable enough with that big Black dude that she came close to him (he was social distancing, she was not) and also informed him that she will make a false report to the police. Which sensible "small woman" does that in a secluded area when a big burly stranger man that she is scared of is threatening her? Not a 41 year old woman who is working in a professional capacity in New York, that's for sure.

Then she proceeded to make false accusation by changing her voice and pretending that she was scared. How many of us have made false calls to 911 and told them that a Black Man is trying to assault us? She did it knowing full well that this man would be brutalized or killed by cops because he is Black.

SHE GOT CAUGHT, That is the thing. She got caught in such a way that her actions cannot be explained away even though other racists are trying to do just that. Thankfully, the other racist scums who are trying to blame the man are demographically the poor FOX NEWS type who are not capable of investing with Franklin Templeton. I hope she is boycotted by everyone and her life as she knows is utterly destroyed. I hope she suffers the shame and humiliation of being known worldwide as a racist and evil woman.

What makes the situation even worse is that the area they were in is specifically an area to watch birds. Here is a description of a class held there by the city:

Located along the Atlantic Flyway, Central Park welcomes more than 270 migrating bird species each year. Learn the basics of bird identification while exploring the Ramble, a vibrant woodland habitat and a tranquil spot to meander along winding paths. Explore its variety of wildlife, while learning tips and tricks for spotting and identifying birds. Bring your own binoculars or borrow a pair from our tour guides.

So she is the intruder who shouldn't be there with an off leash dog. Bird watchers don't go stand in the middle of a dog park. Yet she is so entitled she decides she doesn't like the area where dogs can be off-leash and decides to threaten a bird watcher.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this Birdwatcher would’ve also approached a burly black man with a pitbull in the park , and record that guy I highly doubt it he saw a target and he took it , he saw an opportunity and he took it . And now we Have this viral Social media storm which does nothing except invite us divide a fractured country during a pandemic we are being destroyed in every single way and a stupid little incident in a park is what we are focused on

It's interesting that you're focusing on what the man would've done in another situation. What about what the woman would've done if a white man or woman approached her. Do you think she still would've called the police?

I think if a man of any race threatened to lure her dog away she would have reacted similarly. her reaction may have been more fearful due to race, though. I also think it’s a good point that he wouldn’t have done that to any man (of any race). it’s not one-dimensional here.

Well since we’re making wild ass guesses about what she would have done had a white man requested she leash her dog, I think she would have put him on a leash, as requested, and walked away. Which is what she should have done when a black man requested she obey the law.

You know how you stop your dog from being lured away... you leash them.

the point is - she was scared in response to what she percieved as a threat to her dog. it’s right there in his facebook post. her reaction was also threatening. it was an escalation that he started — which does not make her right, but also does not support the twitter narrative that she was faking it.

NP. Yes, she was so scared that she came right up to him. Did you see the video? Those are not the actions of someone who is scared. If you think a person is threatening you or your dog, you don't walk right up to them and engage them further. You get the hell away from them.

He politely asked her to leash her dog. She told him off. That was the escalation. If she didn't want to escalate, she could have taken her dog and left. She could have refused to argue with with. She chose to respond to his polite request with belligerence and refusal to follow the rules. The supposed "threat" to her dog was made after she escalated. Here is what the victim reports happened before he started recording:

On Facebook, Christian Cooper wrote, “Central Park this morning: This woman’s dog is tearing through the plantings in the Ramble.” He described the conversation he says occurred before he began recording with his cell phone:

ME: Ma’am, dogs in the Ramble have to be on the leash at all times. The sign is right there.
HER: The dog runs are closed. He needs his exercise.
ME: All you have to do is take him to the other side of the drive, outside the Ramble, and you can let him run off leash all you want.
HER: It’s too dangerous.
ME: Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.
HER: What’s that?
ME (to the dog): Come here, puppy!
HER: He won’t come to you.
ME: We’ll see about that…

The bolded is the escalation. She could have leashed her dog. She could have left the area. She could have ignored the man. All of which would be deescalating. She chose to retort to the man and refuse to comply with the law. That's the escalation. Stop trying to blame the victim and protect the bigot here.

Animal.

The dog woman definitely seems like she has some form of Munchausen by doggy proxy Syndrome. That Annabel has had way too many incidents in a brief time and she does seem to love the attention she garners from it the woman is clearly nuts but the birdwatching man is also an instigator and an opportunistic idiot

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Anonymous wrote:Why did he want to feed the dog?

I think he was giving treats to the dog to lure it out of the bushes where it was disrupting the birds.

no, he was using it as leverage to scare her into leashing her dog. it’s clear that he’s the one that started the escalation. her escalation may have been unjustified but it didn’t come out of nowhere.

His choice to call the dog to him didn't come out of nowhere. She was breaking the law and endangering something he cared about by doing so. Her refusal to leash the dog is what escalated a situation in which she was already breaking the law.

Calling the dog to him, since it was running stray, and turning it over to animal control (which I doubt he was going to do) would have been totally reasonable.

yeah, no way he would have done this to a big dude with a pitbull.

That's irrelevant.

yes it is relevant. he felt comfortable escalating with a small woman.

Escalating with a small woman?? Well let's see how this is playing out now, since no one agrees with this absurd statement. She's had to surrender her dog, will likely lose her job and is facing charges for her 911 call. She escalated this. All she had to do was leash her dog.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this Birdwatcher would’ve also approached a burly black man with a pitbull in the park , and record that guy I highly doubt it he saw a target and he took it , he saw an opportunity and he took it . And now we Have this viral Social media storm which does nothing except invite us divide a fractured country during a pandemic we are being destroyed in every single way and a stupid little incident in a park is what we are focused on

It's interesting that you're focusing on what the man would've done in another situation. What about what the woman would've done if a white man or woman approached her. Do you think she still would've called the police?

I think if a man of any race threatened to lure her dog away she would have reacted similarly. her reaction may have been more fearful due to race, though. I also think it’s a good point that he wouldn’t have done that to any man (of any race). it’s not one-dimensional here.

Well since we’re making wild ass guesses about what she would have done had a white man requested she leash her dog, I think she would have put him on a leash, as requested, and walked away. Which is what she should have done when a black man requested she obey the law.

You know how you stop your dog from being lured away... you leash them.

the point is - she was scared in response to what she percieved as a threat to her dog. it’s right there in his facebook post. her reaction was also threatening. it was an escalation that he started — which does not make her right, but also does not support the twitter narrative that she was faking it.

NP. Yes, she was so scared that she came right up to him. Did you see the video? Those are not the actions of someone who is scared. If you think a person is threatening you or your dog, you don't walk right up to them and engage them further. You get the hell away from them.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this Birdwatcher would’ve also approached a burly black man with a pitbull in the park , and record that guy I highly doubt it he saw a target and he took it , he saw an opportunity and he took it . And now we Have this viral Social media storm which does nothing except invite us divide a fractured country during a pandemic we are being destroyed in every single way and a stupid little incident in a park is what we are focused on

It's interesting that you're focusing on what the man would've done in another situation. What about what the woman would've done if a white man or woman approached her. Do you think she still would've called the police?

I think if a man of any race threatened to lure her dog away she would have reacted similarly. her reaction may have been more fearful due to race, though. I also think it’s a good point that he wouldn’t have done that to any man (of any race). it’s not one-dimensional here.

Keep thinking that (bolded statement). I guess that's what helps you go to sleep at night not having to worry about injustice.

read my second sentence. I worry a lot about injustice, and I don’t think twitter mobs based on facebook posts and contextless videos really help fight injustice.

The fact that you are more worried about the injustice of a racist woman who would accuse a man standing there recording her on his phone of being an African American man in the park threatening and attacking her and her dog in a hysterical voice and demand that the police come immediately being twittered mobbed, than you are for the injustice of a blatently false racial and sexual assault charge that could get him beaten, arrested and possibly killed by the police speaks justice.

You are not worried about injustice. You are worried about preserving white privilege and white bigots being punished for abusing their privilege. If you weren't, you would be more worried about what she tried to do to that man, than you were about her facing repercussions for what she did.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this Birdwatcher would’ve also approached a burly black man with a pitbull in the park , and record that guy I highly doubt it he saw a target and he took it , he saw an opportunity and he took it . And now we Have this viral Social media storm which does nothing except invite us divide a fractured country during a pandemic we are being destroyed in every single way and a stupid little incident in a park is what we are focused on

It's interesting that you're focusing on what the man would've done in another situation. What about what the woman would've done if a white man or woman approached her. Do you think she still would've called the police?

I think if a man of any race threatened to lure her dog away she would have reacted similarly. her reaction may have been more fearful due to race, though. I also think it’s a good point that he wouldn’t have done that to any man (of any race). it’s not one-dimensional here.

Keep thinking that (bolded statement). I guess that's what helps you go to sleep at night not having to worry about injustice.

read my second sentence. I worry a lot about injustice, and I don’t think twitter mobs based on facebook posts and contextless videos really help fight injustice.

The fact that you are more worried about the injustice of a racist woman who would accuse a man standing there recording her on his phone of being an African American man in the park threatening and attacking her and her dog in a hysterical voice and demand that the police come immediately being twittered mobbed, than you are for the injustice of a blatently false racial and sexual assault charge that could get him beaten, arrested and possibly killed by the police speaks justice.

You are not worried about injustice. You are worried about preserving white privilege and white bigots being punished for abusing their privilege. If you weren't, you would be more worried about what she tried to do to that man, than you were about her facing repercussions for what she did.

Anonymous wrote:My quick assessment of this woman is that she is nuts. She had an instagram page for her dog and she documented several injuries to her dog. I think she hurt him herself.

She does deserve to be publicly embarrassed. Let's see what she did, I am sure I am missing some too:

1. She's a f*ing racist to say a black man was threatening her
2. pulling out the ol' woman vs. man dynamic (for everyone who says to always believe the 'victim').
3. choking the poor dog and having him off leash
4. making a false 911 call.

The problem with the bolded is that she was basically throwing him in front of the firing squad. This was "execution by cops" and she knew it. She set in motion a chain of events that would have made this man lose his life if he had not left the area. That is pretty extreme and messed up course of action.

She was not scared of the "Big Black Man". If she was really scared of a burly Black Man she would have immediately leashed the dog and left the area. She would have tried to de-escalate and remove herself from that situation. She certainly would not have gone near him or told him that she will make a false statement to the police. Doing that is opposite of de-escalation.

I am a woman. I have been in situations where I have been scared and uncomfortable because I was alone in an area with "disreputable looking" men around. Guess what I did? I quickly left that area. At no point I was trying to go near the men, telling them that I will make a false statement about them to the police.

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I think he was giving treats to the dog to lure it out of the bushes where it was disrupting the birds.

no, he was using it as leverage to scare her into leashing her dog. it’s clear that he’s the one that started the escalation. her escalation may have been unjustified but it didn’t come out of nowhere.

His choice to call the dog to him didn't come out of nowhere. She was breaking the law and endangering something he cared about by doing so. Her refusal to leash the dog is what escalated a situation in which she was already breaking the law.

Calling the dog to him, since it was running stray, and turning it over to animal control (which I doubt he was going to do) would have been totally reasonable.

yeah, no way he would have done this to a big dude with a pitbull.

That's irrelevant.

yes it is relevant. he felt comfortable escalating with a small woman.