Anonymous
04/14/2020 19:47
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
The genius of vibrant smart growth density is that you can put 20 floors of residences on top of the corner bar.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 19:19
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:People shop more on line and sit-down restaurants are less common. So DC needs more density to support even the same level of retail and eating and drinking establishments. This is another important reason to bust through barriers to build a lot more housing.
Somehow, I think this is backwards. Businesses usually open when there is a need. Supply and demand. You want to create demand. It doesn't usually work that way.
If you hadn't noticed, people are purchasing online. All retail is struggling--suburban malls were losing stores right and left before the pandemic. This won't help--although people will likely be anxious to get out when this is over.
You don't build high density in order to help the corner bar. It just doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 18:54
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Correction: sit down restaurant lunches are becoming less common
Anonymous
04/14/2020 18:53
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
People shop more on line and sit-down restaurants are less common. So DC needs more density to support even the same level of retail and eating and drinking establishments. This is another important reason to bust through barriers to build a lot more housing.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 15:56
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Retail is failing so to have nice stores and restaurants, DC has to increase the populations density to provide more customers who love in proximity. This is one of the principles of smart growth.
What? Because a store goes out of business that means that the population of the city is not high enough to support it?
No wonder urbanization is considered pseudoscience. It seems to be grounded in unicorns and fairies.
Stores need customers in order to stay in business, no?
Anonymous
04/14/2020 15:32
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Retail is failing so to have nice stores and restaurants, DC has to increase the populations density to provide more customers who love in proximity. This is one of the principles of smart growth.
What? Because a store goes out of business that means that the population of the city is not high enough to support it?
No wonder urbanization is considered pseudoscience. It seems to be grounded in unicorns and fairies.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 08:12
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Live in proximity
Anonymous
04/14/2020 08:11
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Retail is failing so to have nice stores and restaurants, DC has to increase the populations density to provide more customers who love in proximity. This is one of the principles of smart growth.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 07:49
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
You're using the "The fact that there are houses for sale and apartments available for rent proves that we don't need any more housing" argument.
No, my question was how much housing do we need. I just threw in available housing to illustrate that there is housing today. I am asking how much housing we want? Sorry, I did not mean for it to be an either or argument. Two separate statements.
Well, the mayor has set a goal of 36,000 new units built by 2025, with 12,000 of those units explicitly in the "affordable" category.
If there is existing housing on the market, why not offer subsidies to essential services people who want to live in the city and call it a day?
PP, there is existing housing on the market because people don't stay put. It doesn't mean there's an excess of housing. It doesn't mean we don't need more housing. It just means that people move from one living situation to another.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 06:37
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
DP
I’ll expand this to say it applies to the entire DMV area. There is an excess of housing.
You could double the number of housing units in DC and it would have zero effect on prices. It would just invite more people from the suburbs -- remember there are six million of them -- to move into the city.
That many?
You want the corrupt DC area to be like Manhattan?
I thought the city already had problems with clean water, rats, munitions, bad schools and city owned sports field in the exclusive use of one private school
It is enough for me to be able to visit if I want. The walkability provided services you need at most once a month. If restaurant food is not your thing, and if your job is not right in the city, then there really isn't much incentive to live there
Anonymous
04/14/2020 06:23
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
You're using the "The fact that there are houses for sale and apartments available for rent proves that we don't need any more housing" argument.
No, my question was how much housing do we need. I just threw in available housing to illustrate that there is housing today. I am asking how much housing we want? Sorry, I did not mean for it to be an either or argument. Two separate statements.
Well, the mayor has set a goal of 36,000 new units built by 2025, with 12,000 of those units explicitly in the "affordable" category.
If there is existing housing on the market, why not offer subsidies to essential services people who want to live in the city and call it a day?
Anonymous
04/13/2020 23:05
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
DP
I’ll expand this to say it applies to the entire DMV area. There is an excess of housing.
You could double the number of housing units in DC and it would have zero effect on prices. It would just invite more people from the suburbs -- remember there are six million of them -- to move into the city.
Anonymous
04/13/2020 21:07
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
DP
I’ll expand this to say it applies to the entire DMV area. There is an excess of housing.
There sure is. That's why housing is so cheap here!
Wait, what?
Anonymous
04/13/2020 20:51
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You're disagreeing with the facts that there needs to be housing in cities and that multi-family housing provides more housing units per land area than single-family houses with yards? Really?
How much housing does the city need? Just out of curiosity. We have a population of 700K right now and as of the 2000 Census we had 275,000 dwellings (Single family attached + Detached, plus multi person buildings, plus mobile homes (DC has 203 mobile homes). So what is the magic number? If in the last 20 years 25K units were built (very conservative assumption there) we have around 300K units. How many more units do we want to build? 100K, 200K??? What is the magic number and where are we getting that number from? I am genuinely curious. You can look online right now, there are thousands of homes and apartments available right now across the city to move in this week.
DP
I’ll expand this to say it applies to the entire DMV area. There is an excess of housing.
Anonymous
04/13/2020 18:49
Subject: Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somehow density loses its allure when all of the fast casual concept eateries and craft cocktail bars are closed.
The only people who care about density are 30 year old white guys who want to live near bars.
Or people of any age or race who realize that suburban sprawl is bad for the environment.
Building more high end young professional flats with quartz countertops and Asian fusion fast casual restaurants on the group floor in DC neighborhoods will prevent SFH sprawl into corn fields north of Germantown. Oh, and prevent climate change.
So you have a personal dislike of of stuff young professionals in DC are evidently willing to pay for. I get it - I have a personal dislike of brick-fronted, vinyl-sided single-family-detached houses with quartz countertops and spindly trees planted way too close to the house by the builders, in areas that were hayfields three years ago. Now imagine if I stood up a meeting and said, "I support a ban on development of former hayfields because those houses are dumb and ugly, and I liked the hayfields better." Actually you don't have to imagine, because people do that. It's not a winning argument.