Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The level of denial in this thread is astounding. People are really arguing that obesity is not linked to health problems?

People are not arguing that here.

They are arguing that most efforts to lose weight, especially when accompanied by shaming, tend to backfire. Therefore -- and this is the point you are missing -- you should stop doing counterproductive things and try to find methods that are actually productive.

There are some people who will find shame a motivator long term to accomplish a goal.
I used to be severely overweight and I observed that people who felt shame for being overweight, like true deep down shame, where the ones who lost weight. Generally speaking these were also people who had not been seriously overweight for more than 5 years.so the combo of being motivated by shame and not being seriously overweight for a very long time is likely what made them successful in their weight loss.

I am not suggesting we go out and shame people but I am suggesting that the one size fits all approach doesn’t apply because there are a group of people for whole shame is a motivator even if you personally think that’s terrible and so on

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/596614/skinnier-80s/

It Was Easier to Be Skinny in the ’80s
Aug 23, 2019 | 2 videos
Video by The Atlantic

More than a third of adults in the United States are obese. This statistic is often attributed to a confluence of unhealthy dietary practices, sedentary lifestyles, and genetics. But we may be missing the bigger picture.

A 2015 study revealed that people today are 10 percent heavier than they were in the 1980s—even with the same diets and exercise regimens. A new episode of The Idea File investigates the plethora of complex factors that may be contributing to our increasing BMI, including a changing microbiome and toxic chemicals in the environment.

I remember very well what I used to do to do be skinny in the 80's. It involved eating very little (no breakfast, tiny lunch, small dinner) and exercising a lot. In my late teens I picked up smoking so staying skinny meant smoking, eating even less and being active - I walked everywhere and I was going out a lot with friends to dance at clubs.

Fast food, eating out was a treat not an every day thing like it is now. And school food was pretty terrible. The dining hall food at my college was gross and nothing like the food options the kids have today. After college, I had a few years when I wasn't making much and could barely afford groceries at all...that has a way of keeping you thin.

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/596614/skinnier-80s/

It Was Easier to Be Skinny in the ’80s
Aug 23, 2019 | 2 videos
Video by The Atlantic

More than a third of adults in the United States are obese. This statistic is often attributed to a confluence of unhealthy dietary practices, sedentary lifestyles, and genetics. But we may be missing the bigger picture.

A 2015 study revealed that people today are 10 percent heavier than they were in the 1980s—even with the same diets and exercise regimens. A new episode of The Idea File investigates the plethora of complex factors that may be contributing to our increasing BMI, including a changing microbiome and toxic chemicals in the environment.

I don’t feel shameless being heavy. I have medical condition adds to weight gain.

Fat phobia is real. Worse discrimination than gender or race discrimination and original poster proved it

Anonymous wrote:I have an overweight friend who is really into body positivity and the HAES movement. I don’t really think much about about people‘s size and I‘ve never been overweight, so body positivity is something new to me. Why do people who love their bodies need to convince everyone?

What do you think of fat men, op?

I do not think anyone would like to be fat, everyone likes to be slim, being fat feels very shameless. Being fat can cause many serious diseases. Do we like being fat or not? Is it in our hands. maybe not. But we can definitely stop ourselves from getting fat. We have many bad habits which help us to get fat. If we leave those habits, then we can definitely stop ourselves from getting fat.