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Anonymous wrote:If the mother had left the phone some distance from the edge of the pool and the kid had dug it out of her bag, walked over to the pool, and dropped it in, that would have been the fault of the boy's parent, because they should have been watching him better.

But if you leave your phone in a perilous place and it comes to harm, that's your fault.

Good answer

So if you walk down a dark alley, you deserve what you get, right?

The victim blaming here is gross.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe this thread is 22 pages long.
I also can't believe the phone obsession. Last weekend at our pool two people were sitting in the pool, on the steps, with phones, looking at whatever, w while kids were jumping around, splashing, etc. Just put the phone away!

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Anonymous wrote:It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.

Who buys insurance on a cell phone?

When phones were less expensive, most people didn't have insurance. Now that smartphones cost $500-1000, I pay for insurance.

Total waste of money. Effectively you’re paying for another phone on a layaway plan, except you probably never get the phone.

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Anonymous wrote:It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.

Who buys insurance on a cell phone?

When phones were less expensive, most people didn't have insurance. Now that smartphones cost $500-1000, I pay for insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:If the mother had left the phone some distance from the edge of the pool and the kid had dug it out of her bag, walked over to the pool, and dropped it in, that would have been the fault of the boy's parent, because they should have been watching him better.

But if you leave your phone in a perilous place and it comes to harm, that's your fault.

Good answer

So if you walk down a dark alley, you deserve what you get, right?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If the mother had left the phone some distance from the edge of the pool and the kid had dug it out of her bag, walked over to the pool, and dropped it in, that would have been the fault of the boy's parent, because they should have been watching him better.

But if you leave your phone in a perilous place and it comes to harm, that's your fault.

Good answer

So if you walk down a dark alley, you deserve what you get, right?

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Anonymous wrote:If the mother had left the phone some distance from the edge of the pool and the kid had dug it out of her bag, walked over to the pool, and dropped it in, that would have been the fault of the boy's parent, because they should have been watching him better.

But if you leave your phone in a perilous place and it comes to harm, that's your fault.

Good answer

Anonymous wrote:If the mother had left the phone some distance from the edge of the pool and the kid had dug it out of her bag, walked over to the pool, and dropped it in, that would have been the fault of the boy's parent, because they should have been watching him better.

But if you leave your phone in a perilous place and it comes to harm, that's your fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a crazy idea:

If you go to the baby pool, you should expect babies to be there. And here’s the really crazy part - you should expect babies to act like babies and toddlers to act like toddlers. If you don’t want them playing with your phone, don’t put it where the pool toys are kept.

An even crazier idea:

Parents take responsibility for their baby and toddler. Parents learn to actively supervise, watch and parent their baby and toddler. If you don’t want to parent your child, stay home.

+1

I know it’s hard to be a parent but you signed up for this, cupcake. Pay up for your lack of supervision. Maybe take a parenting class?

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t have $500-1000 to replace someone’s phone. I’m sure the mom was mortified. But it might be the difference between making rent that month or not. Sure, I’m an ideal world we all have enough and the mom of the kid offers to pay... but also the phone owner would be gracious and not accept.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a crazy idea:

If you go to the baby pool, you should expect babies to be there. And here’s the really crazy part - you should expect babies to act like babies and toddlers to act like toddlers. If you don’t want them playing with your phone, don’t put it where the pool toys are kept.

An even crazier idea:

Parents take responsibility for their baby and toddler. Parents learn to actively supervise, watch and parent their baby and toddler. If you don’t want to parent your child, stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:The real issue is: what example do you set for your impressionable child? The answer is: when we destroy someone else’s stuff, we take responsibility for that. (Or do y’all want your kid to see you arguing the fine points about how close the phone was to the pool? Oy.)

Actually I think most people who leave their phones in dangerous places (like on the side of a kiddie pool) don't expect others to replace it. They know they were making risky choices.

This doesn’t seem to be getting through: has nothing to do with what the phone owner expects. It is about what is the right behavior to show the child. The right behavior is we broke it, so we take responsibility for it.

The right behavior to demonstrate to a 2 year old?! My two year old has no idea phones cost money. She doesn’t really understand that anything costs money or that money is limited. She’s 2. Yesterday she walked towards the pool with her towel and a funny look on her face. I said DO NOT put that towel in the pool. She dropped it in the pool without breaking eye contact. I rung it out and explained that now she didn’t have a towel to get warm and dry because she soaked hers. She blinked and me and then sat down and switched her water shoes from the correct feet to the wrong feet and then asked me for apple juice. But sure, if it had been some idiot’s phone she would have learned a lifelong lesson by me paying for it. Do you even have kids?

NP. You contradict yourself. You taught your daughter the consequence of her putting her towel in the pool - now it's wet. Why wouldn't you teach her the consequence of throwing someone's phone in the pool?