Anonymous
04/02/2019 07:17
Subject: Re:Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a crisis and it has been building for some time now.
Democrats are denying it because should they admit this to be true, public opinion may sway in Trump's direction toward building a border barrier. They cannot have this.
The only crisis is the one Trump created by separating families and creating conditions of mass rape of girls and young women by men of all stripes.
Trump created? You are too dumb to know that you are a dumb.
What did Barack and other Presidents did for years ? Catched and released Or kept in jail as whole family?
Anyone?
Stop deflecting. It's never been this much of a trainwreck.
Anonymous
04/02/2019 06:28
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.
Take a look at a map and you will understand the issue. There is already fencing and barrier where it is mostly practical and feasible. If you are not familiar with it and simply think "building a wall" is the solution, then you have been duped.
Anonymous
04/02/2019 06:25
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Progressive here - shut the border down.
What do you tell companies like GM and Catepillar who rely on cross border trade?
Auto OEM's need to suck it up and pass on the consumer costs. It'll be good - people will be buy less cars (or cheaper/smaller cars that they actually need) and therefore it'll be better for the environment.
Tell it to red staters that need their pick-up trucks and tractors to do their jobs.
Anonymous
04/02/2019 05:39
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So Trump wants to close the border. With the exception of California, the next 10 states this impacts, will cost about $50B. Those ten states are all red states. Hope they are happy.
Huh?
Texas would have already done it if they could have
Anonymous
04/02/2019 01:23
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
He should also incentivize Mexico to keep those caravans out or in Mexico.
Anonymous
04/02/2019 01:22
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Trump is only making things worse because look what’s going to happen:
1) kids are staying in the foster care system- $$$$
2) the sentiment is about the “poor kids” and there will be very sympathetic public opinion about them after trump is gone
3) many of these families will win lawsuits- $$$$$
He should work with Congress to change the asylum criteria and work with the state govts to make public benefit accessible only upon proof that people have legal status (schools, food banks, etc)
1) kids are staying in the foster care system- $$$$
2) the sentiment is about the “poor kids” and there will be very sympathetic public opinion about them after trump is gone
3) many of these families will win lawsuits- $$$$$
He should work with Congress to change the asylum criteria and work with the state govts to make public benefit accessible only upon proof that people have legal status (schools, food banks, etc)
Anonymous
04/02/2019 01:17
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.
Because it's virtually impossible to build said barrier directly ON the border. They cross into US territory before they even reach the barrier. Sorry but that is how it works.
Then perhaps Mexico could step up and build a barrier on THEIR side of the border so that no one touches U.S. soil unless we have room for them.
Why would they? They don’t need these crowds. Unless the US gives them money like EU paid Turkey to keep the Syrian refugees out of Europe.
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Anonymous
04/02/2019 01:15
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.
Because it's virtually impossible to build said barrier directly ON the border. They cross into US territory before they even reach the barrier. Sorry but that is how it works.
Then perhaps Mexico could step up and build a barrier on THEIR side of the border so that no one touches U.S. soil unless we have room for them.
Anonymous
04/02/2019 01:14
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DP- my neighborhood school is 65% low income and ESOL, mostly Hispanic. They can’t all be the children of corporate employees or have been here for x generations.
It does look like an invasion, neighborhood families (the ones who have been here for many years in fact) rarely send their kids to this school.
How exactly does it "look like an invasion"?
Middle class families don’t find the teaching rigorous enough. Tons of time spent on discipline and remedial instruction. Very few afterschool activities because nobody wants to organize them and/or pay for them.
Basically, this school now “belongs” to low income ESOL students. They are the focus.
OMGERD!! PEOPLE SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL!!! PANIC!!!
Their kids need free lunches, therapy, remedial instruction, ESOL services, free aftercare, free enrichment.
Guess what, kids who come from generational poverty and are US citizens, and descendants of slaves, need it all, too!
And guess what, middle class kids of citizens and LEGAL immigrants need enrichment (which they cannot get because the school leadership refuses to invite vendors unless they accommodate free lunch kids).
Middle class kids need quality instruction, and more than a handful of parents volunteering for more than a handful of events.
They also need teachers who are not stretched thin.
Anonymous
04/01/2019 23:36
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.
Because it's virtually impossible to build said barrier directly ON the border. They cross into US territory before they even reach the barrier. Sorry but that is how it works.
Anonymous
04/01/2019 23:25
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.
Anonymous
04/01/2019 23:22
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Progressive here - shut the border down.
+ 1,000,000
+2,000,000
Anonymous
04/01/2019 23:22
Subject: Re:Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a crisis and it has been building for some time now.
Democrats are denying it because should they admit this to be true, public opinion may sway in Trump's direction toward building a border barrier. They cannot have this.
The only crisis is the one Trump created by separating families and creating conditions of mass rape of girls and young women by men of all stripes.
Trump created? You are too dumb to know that you are a dumb.
What did Barack and other Presidents did for years ? Catched and released Or kept in jail as whole family?
Anyone?
“What changed was the administration’s handling of these cases. Undocumented immigrant families seeking asylum previously were released and went into the civil court system, but now the parents are being detained and sent to criminal courts while their kids are resettled in the United States as though they were unaccompanied minors.”
“Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for Nielsen, said the administration does not have a family-separation policy. But Waldman agreed that Trump officials are exercising their prosecutorial discretion to charge more illegal-entry offenses, which in turn causes more family separations. The Obama administration also separated immigrant families, she said.”
““During the Obama administration there was no policy in place that resulted in the systematic separation of families at the border, like we are now seeing under the Trump administration,” said Sarah Pierce, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute. “Our understanding is that generally parents were not prosecuted for illegal entry under President Obama. There may have been some separation if there was suspicion that the children were being trafficked or a claimed parent-child relationship did not actually exist. But nothing like the levels we are seeing today.””
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/19/the-facts-about-trumps-policy-of-separating-families-at-the-border/
There is a simple way for these parents to stop separations: do not enter the U.S. illegally.
Bingo.
Anonymous
04/01/2019 22:59
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Progressive here - shut the border down.
What do you tell companies like GM and Catepillar who rely on cross border trade?
Buck up or shut up.
Enough is enough already.
It'll be ok. Sp
Anonymous
04/01/2019 22:49
Subject: Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Progressive here - shut the border down.
What do you tell companies like GM and Catepillar who rely on cross border trade?
Auto OEM's need to suck it up and pass on the consumer costs. It'll be good - people will be buy less cars (or cheaper/smaller cars that they actually need) and therefore it'll be better for the environment.