Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:47     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:


I am zoned for Northwood and said earlier that I am worried about eastern MoCo becoming a suburban ghetto. I don't think it's likely, but I do worry about the possibility that most of the high earners leave while more and more of the low-earners come.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:46     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?


No. It's not going to be dire at all.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:46     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:

(Copied from another thread):

Here in descending order (from biggest to smallest) are the changes in average home sales price since the 2008 recession, by high school cluster (Blair, Northwood, and Einstein alone have gone up 200%... and two of them are actually ON University Blvd!).

Blair
Northwood
Einstein
B-CC
Rockville
Whitman
Wheaton
Gaithersburg
Damascus
Paint Branch
Quince Orchard
Sherwood
Watkins Mill
Churchill
Poolesville
Seneca Valley
MONTGOMERY COUNTY OVERALL
Magruder
Springbrook
Blake
Northwest
Walter Johnson
Richard Montgomery
Wootton
Clarksburg
Kennedy

https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02...i60MxPYxKBIxw0MgSIagrN6Yzc1dPY


Has anyone done a comparison using a national test like SAT scores across larger common cohorts to factor demographic differences?


Yes, you can get a sense of how one school stacks up to another by looking beyond simple demographic differences. The data is available from MCPS at the link below, but an abbreviated follows:

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/shared...c_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:43     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?


Why should they? Some people like to live in a area where the school is good, it is natural. But you don't always get what you want, that is natural too.
As long as the schools are doing what they are supposed to, I don't see a problem.

Some people just want to see all schools in the county to perform at the same high level. I do not see a problem for people wanting to achieve that. But if they propose something that is bad for kids going to the current high performing schools, I call that social engineering and consider that bad - does not matter what their real intentions are.


Potomac isn't what it used to be. People believing this myth are operating on information that's 20 years out of date. The county's been changing for a while and the places with the best schools aren't what they once were either. A big part of the problem is it's hard to understand the data since it isn't as simple as looking at a school's average on PARCC.


I thought the W's were the best schools. If you think things have changed, which other school(s) do you think are better than the W's now?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:38     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:

(Copied from another thread):

Here in descending order (from biggest to smallest) are the changes in average home sales price since the 2008 recession, by high school cluster (Blair, Northwood, and Einstein alone have gone up 200%... and two of them are actually ON University Blvd!).

Blair
Northwood
Einstein
B-CC
Rockville
Whitman
Wheaton
Gaithersburg
Damascus
Paint Branch
Quince Orchard
Sherwood
Watkins Mill
Churchill
Poolesville
Seneca Valley
MONTGOMERY COUNTY OVERALL
Magruder
Springbrook
Blake
Northwest
Walter Johnson
Richard Montgomery
Wootton
Clarksburg
Kennedy

https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02...i60MxPYxKBIxw0MgSIagrN6Yzc1dPY


Has anyone done a comparison using a national test like SAT scores across larger common cohorts to factor demographic differences?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 10:37     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?


Why should they? Some people like to live in a area where the school is good, it is natural. But you don't always get what you want, that is natural too.
As long as the schools are doing what they are supposed to, I don't see a problem.

Some people just want to see all schools in the county to perform at the same high level. I do not see a problem for people wanting to achieve that. But if they propose something that is bad for kids going to the current high performing schools, I call that social engineering and consider that bad - does not matter what their real intentions are.


Potomac isn't what it used to be. People believing this myth are operating on information that's 20 years out of date. The county's been changing for a while and the places with the best schools aren't what they once were either. A big part of the problem is it's hard to understand the data since it isn't as simple as looking at a school's average on PARCC.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2019 09:20     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
To these people bizarrely saying Silver Spring and anything near University Blvd. is the ghetto:

(Copied from another thread):

Here in descending order (from biggest to smallest) are the changes in average home sales price since the 2008 recession, by high school cluster (Blair, Northwood, and Einstein alone have gone up 200%... and two of them are actually ON University Blvd!).

Blair
Northwood
Einstein
B-CC
Rockville
Whitman
Wheaton
Gaithersburg
Damascus
Paint Branch
Quince Orchard
Sherwood
Watkins Mill
Churchill
Poolesville
Seneca Valley
MONTGOMERY COUNTY OVERALL
Magruder
Springbrook
Blake
Northwest
Walter Johnson
Richard Montgomery
Wootton
Clarksburg
Kennedy

https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2019/02...i60MxPYxKBIxw0MgSIagrN6Yzc1dPY
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 20:24     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?


Why should they? Some people like to live in a area where the school is good, it is natural. But you don't always get what you want, that is natural too.
As long as the schools are doing what they are supposed to, I don't see a problem.

Some people just want to see all schools in the county to perform at the same high level. I do not see a problem for people wanting to achieve that. But if they propose something that is bad for kids going to the current high performing schools, I call that social engineering and consider that bad - does not matter what their real intentions are.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 20:15     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
What’s the social experiment?

Should people just move out of moco if they can’t afford Potomac? Is it going to be that dire?
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 20:10     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some might be cruelty, but a lot might be anxiety

I haven't posted yet, but I am worried as a home-owner in the eastern part of the county that my area will basically turn into a low-income, suburban ghetto...


I wouldn’t want to live anywhere near university Blvd in either direction


I'm worried as a resident in the western part of the county that my child will grow up to be an insensitive racist.


I am not saying it is good to be insensitive (to low income people), but why is it related to "racist"?
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 20:08     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Some might be cruelty, but a lot might be anxiety

I haven't posted yet, but I am worried as a home-owner in the eastern part of the county that my area will basically turn into a low-income, suburban ghetto...



I wouldn’t want to live anywhere near university Blvd in either direction


+1 There is a huge amount of anxiety surrounding not letting the eastern areas fall further. The entire county is declining but the impact of that is very different in Potomac than Silver Spring. In Potomac, it just means that someone who is very wealthy doesn't make as much money when they sell their house as they would have made if they had bought in VA. It doesn't change their lifestyle in any meaningful way. In Silver Spring, it means that someone who lives just at the edge of affordability and whose home goes under water is potentially bankrupt. Potomac school scores don't drop when people move in who only can afford a 900K house rather than 1.2M house. Silver Spring scores drop when only people who can afford low income rent move in.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 20:02     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some might be cruelty, but a lot might be anxiety

I haven't posted yet, but I am worried as a home-owner in the eastern part of the county that my area will basically turn into a low-income, suburban ghetto...


I wouldn’t want to live anywhere near university Blvd in either direction


I'm worried as a resident in the western part of the county that my child will grow up to be an insensitive racist.
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 19:59     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:Some might be cruelty, but a lot might be anxiety

I haven't posted yet, but I am worried as a home-owner in the eastern part of the county that my area will basically turn into a low-income, suburban ghetto...


I wouldn’t want to live anywhere near university Blvd in either direction
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 19:58     Subject: Re:Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Anonymous wrote:I see so much more anger, cynicism, and cruelty on this thread than I do at my child’s “bad” high school.


Being oblivious doesn’t mean it isnt there
Anonymous
Post 03/05/2019 19:07     Subject: Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad
Some might be cruelty, but a lot might be anxiety

I haven't posted yet, but I am worried as a home-owner in the eastern part of the county that my area will basically turn into a low-income, suburban ghetto...