Anonymous
11/17/2015 23:03
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Well, there are at least 125 dissenting former BASIS families (175-40/50). And a number of parents I know avoid BASIS because they do perceive it as a possibly stressful and grim experience.
With students leaving, and with somewhat limited appeal, is BASIS DC able to cover its expenses? Is that why they are opening the private school in Virginia?
Hello again, insane BASIS basher. Tell me: after three years, how have you avoided getting a life?
Anonymous
11/17/2015 21:56
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Well, there are at least 125 dissenting former BASIS families (175-40/50). And a number of parents I know avoid BASIS because they do perceive it as a possibly stressful and grim experience.
With students leaving, and with somewhat limited appeal, is BASIS DC able to cover its expenses? Is that why they are opening the private school in Virginia?
How does Washington Latin do it? KIPP? Chavez?
Anonymous
11/17/2015 21:53
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Well, there are at least 125 dissenting former BASIS families (175-40/50). And a number of parents I know avoid BASIS because they do perceive it as a possibly stressful and grim experience.
With students leaving, and with somewhat limited appeal, is BASIS DC able to cover its expenses? Is that why they are opening the private school in Virginia?
With students leaving, and with somewhat limited appeal, is BASIS DC able to cover its expenses? Is that why they are opening the private school in Virginia?
Anonymous
11/17/2015 21:30
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
And? In Arizona, they've gotten away with the wholesale culling of students they cannot openly vet for 25 years now. They're well on their way to getting away with it in DC, where the evangelism of school choice remains at fever pitch. BASIS ducks and weaves and take no responsibility for brutishness masquerading as a fine liberal arts education for all who work hard. Politicians, parents and ed leaders celebrate their grim model, accepting massive attrition as reasonable, wherever BASIS empire builds. Dissenting voices are few. And the beat goes on.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 20:38
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:I agre that this is not a fight for Eyerman, since it would be better for him to have students stay on, not have an easy way to transfer out.
Why can't DCPS just give the BASIS students a geometry exam to show that they don't need to retake it? Is it that hard? Shouldn't all the DCPS geometry classes have a basic standard of mastery? And if they don't, why not?
The BASIS MODEL IS PREDICATED UPON ATTRITION.
Basis DC 2012-6th grade started out with 175 kids
2015-9th grade and there are 40-50 kids left. Extrapolate out further using the following information.
Basis Scottsdale ranked #2 in the country by US News & World Report- the attrition continues all the way through senior year.
9th Grade 91 Students
10th Grade 47 Students
11th Grade 40 Students
12th Grade 32 Students
Anonymous
11/17/2015 20:38
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:I agre that this is not a fight for Eyerman, since it would be better for him to have students stay on, not have an easy way to transfer out.
Why can't DCPS just give the BASIS students a geometry exam to show that they don't need to retake it? Is it that hard? Shouldn't all the DCPS geometry classes have a basic standard of mastery? And if they don't, why not?
As someone stated several pages ago, it may be more than just a question of subject matter mastery from DCPS's perspective. A DCPS parent posted that there has been a limit on how many Carnegie units can be earned/carried from middle school to high school (1 believe it was a maximum of 1 foreign language and 1 math). Another poster said that she was told at a Deal meeting that now 2 foreign language and 2 math could be earned/carried.
At any rate it's a question for DCPS - perhaps the DME would be willing to help solve it.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 19:51
Subject: Basis PCS
I agre that this is not a fight for Eyerman, since it would be better for him to have students stay on, not have an easy way to transfer out.
Why can't DCPS just give the BASIS students a geometry exam to show that they don't need to retake it? Is it that hard? Shouldn't all the DCPS geometry classes have a basic standard of mastery? And if they don't, why not?
Why can't DCPS just give the BASIS students a geometry exam to show that they don't need to retake it? Is it that hard? Shouldn't all the DCPS geometry classes have a basic standard of mastery? And if they don't, why not?
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:56
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The issue is with kids who switch schools in the middle of the sequence. The kids who stay at Basis will get all the content eventually.
It is just something that parents of kids who want to move from Basis to another school need to take into consideration.
if you start in 8/7 in 5th, Algebra I in 6th, Algebra II in 7th, and Precalculus in 8th and leave for high school you have completed the sequence and thus deserve full credit for Geometry
And that their two years of World History will be wasted but the AP maybe will be good practice?
At established BASIS schools, attrition between 8th and 9th is 30-40% - expected and anticipated. Those who start at the regular math level should get credit for Geometry because they will have taken Precalculus and thus a full year of Geometry. Those who take the World History AP and get a 3 or above should not be required to take it over. But Geometry and World History are "graduation requirements."
I think Mr. Eyerman should raise the issue for those kids because he knows they are going to leave.
Those who have left after precalculus and stayed in public have been required to take Geometry.
The most advanced math class in the school started at 8, and is now down to 4. In the last two years, two of the kids in the top math class have left each year as 8th graders. Some went private. Those who went public, including those who took AP Calculus AB, have been required to take Geometry.
In the present 6th grade, there are something like 14 kids who will be taking AP Calculus AB in 8th. So this is going to be a big deal for them. It would nice to see some uniform rules that worked in our favor.
Mr. Eyerman should be spending his time to build a high school program that those 6th graders will want to stick around for. His job is not to lobby DCPS. Those parents who allow their kids to accelerate that much should understand risks and consequences of their decisions.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:50
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The issue is with kids who switch schools in the middle of the sequence. The kids who stay at Basis will get all the content eventually.
It is just something that parents of kids who want to move from Basis to another school need to take into consideration.
if you start in 8/7 in 5th, Algebra I in 6th, Algebra II in 7th, and Precalculus in 8th and leave for high school you have completed the sequence and thus deserve full credit for Geometry
And that their two years of World History will be wasted but the AP maybe will be good practice?
At established BASIS schools, attrition between 8th and 9th is 30-40% - expected and anticipated. Those who start at the regular math level should get credit for Geometry because they will have taken Precalculus and thus a full year of Geometry. Those who take the World History AP and get a 3 or above should not be required to take it over. But Geometry and World History are "graduation requirements."
I think Mr. Eyerman should raise the issue for those kids because he knows they are going to leave.
Those who have left after precalculus and stayed in public have been required to take Geometry.
The most advanced math class in the school started at 8, and is now down to 4. In the last two years, two of the kids in the top math class have left each year as 8th graders. Some went private. Those who went public, including those who took AP Calculus AB, have been required to take Geometry.
In the present 6th grade, there are something like 14 kids who will be taking AP Calculus AB in 8th. So this is going to be a big deal for them. It would nice to see some uniform rules that worked in our favor.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:38
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to share thoughts about the BASIS high school meeting for 8th graders and parents? We thought it was really good. Pretty sure that our child is going to stay.
Learning the details about the focus on college preparedness was impressive. We really liked that they take a daily class dealing with college issues (essay writing help, scholarship help, college selection, etc.) Some of the staff presenters were super impressive, as were the student presentations, including the last boy who knocked it out of the park.
Smiling because during last year's 8th grade session I was really impressed by the high school students - it helped convince us to stay for 9th. Glad that tradition is continuing!
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:10
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to share thoughts about the BASIS high school meeting for 8th graders and parents? We thought it was really good. Pretty sure that our child is going to stay.
Learning the details about the focus on college preparedness was impressive. We really liked that they take a daily class dealing with college issues (essay writing help, scholarship help, college selection, etc.) Some of the staff presenters were super impressive, as were the student presentations, including the last boy who knocked it out of the park.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:06
Subject: Re:Basis PCS
Anyone want to share thoughts about the BASIS high school meeting for 8th graders and parents? We thought it was really good. Pretty sure that our child is going to stay.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 15:05
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The issue is with kids who switch schools in the middle of the sequence. The kids who stay at Basis will get all the content eventually.
It is just something that parents of kids who want to move from Basis to another school need to take into consideration.
if you start in 8/7 in 5th, Algebra I in 6th, Algebra II in 7th, and Precalculus in 8th and leave for high school you have completed the sequence and thus deserve full credit for Geometry
And that their two years of World History will be wasted but the AP maybe will be good practice?
I disagree re 'deserve.' The reality is you're transferring between two separate school districts that happen to be in the same city. And there is nothing that requires - or precludes - one to accept the credits from another.
Life isn't fair, caveat emptor and so on.
there's absolutely no reason why DCPS and charters can't coordinate on accreditation within OSSE oversight. That cuts both ways, as plenty of students move from DCPS to charters too.
Please look up what accreditation means.
There are standards that each school must meet - it's called Common Core. But aligning curriculum beyond that is a very slippery slope.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 14:56
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The issue is with kids who switch schools in the middle of the sequence. The kids who stay at Basis will get all the content eventually.
It is just something that parents of kids who want to move from Basis to another school need to take into consideration.
if you start in 8/7 in 5th, Algebra I in 6th, Algebra II in 7th, and Precalculus in 8th and leave for high school you have completed the sequence and thus deserve full credit for Geometry
And that their two years of World History will be wasted but the AP maybe will be good practice?
I disagree re 'deserve.' The reality is you're transferring between two separate school districts that happen to be in the same city. And there is nothing that requires - or precludes - one to accept the credits from another.
Life isn't fair, caveat emptor and so on.
there's absolutely no reason why DCPS and charters can't coordinate on accreditation within OSSE oversight. That cuts both ways, as plenty of students move from DCPS to charters too.
Anonymous
11/17/2015 14:24
Subject: Basis PCS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The issue is with kids who switch schools in the middle of the sequence. The kids who stay at Basis will get all the content eventually.
It is just something that parents of kids who want to move from Basis to another school need to take into consideration.
if you start in 8/7 in 5th, Algebra I in 6th, Algebra II in 7th, and Precalculus in 8th and leave for high school you have completed the sequence and thus deserve full credit for Geometry
And that their two years of World History will be wasted but the AP maybe will be good practice?
I disagree re 'deserve.' The reality is you're transferring between two separate school districts that happen to be in the same city. And there is nothing that requires - or precludes - one to accept the credits from another.
Life isn't fair, caveat emptor and so on.