Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 15:04     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
The way the program is administered is subject to change. Why is it a 2 year process for this and not other changes?

How come new centers were opened in a year?

Honestly, just curious - not being argumentative.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 14:13     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Board to make these decisions. It's representative democracy in action. Also qualified kids have a right under VA law to gifted services. A local community cannot vote to do away with that right-- which would be the effect in many base school of closing centers. Also, does this really make sense: I want FCPS to be required to offer/ teach Swahili (or creationism or swimming or allow for language immersion in every school) there should be a ballot initiate. Welcome the to the 70 page local ballot. Or, as a previous poster said: election law (and I'd add constitutional law).
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 14:07     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


They will not post it as a ballot question.


Because VA does not have a CA style proposition statute. Instead , you elect the school
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:51     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


They will not post it as a ballot question.


How on earth would you know this?


Election law.


http://elections.virginia.gov/index.php/election-law/place-issue-on-ballot/

Local Issues
Local issues are permitted to be placed on the ballot only if the question is authorized by statute or by charter. In such cases the question is specifically stated in either the county, city or town charter or in the section of the Code of Virginia that permits the question. Example: The Direct Election of School Board is found in § 22.1-57.2. The signature requirements also are included in that section.

You can determine which issues are permitted by law by going to http://lis.virginia.gov/000/src.htm and submit a search using the keyword: “referendum”.

The Code section that authorizes the issue also will specify if it can appear on the ballot as a result of voter petition.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:49     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


They will not post it as a ballot question.


How on earth would you know this?


Election law.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:48     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:^^^and especially when we're being told the budget won't allow for many other extras, which many deem more important than center schools.


There is not enough time to make the programmatic changes by September 2016. It is similar to reverting the start times.


Of course there is.


There's a two year process in making a change to existing AAP centers -- one year in planning and another year to be ready to implement, communicate with the community, etc. There's no way to have a wholesale "close everything everywhere" decision in place by December 2015, when Dr. Garza finalizes the FY 2017 budget.

Unless you have some magic dust.

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:40     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


Nah. Countywide people aren't thinking about centers. At certain schools with overcrowding, yes, but for the majority of students who aren't affected one way or the other by centers, who cares.


I disagree. Centers may not directly affect certain kids/schools, but everyone in the county has an opinion on what's equitable and what's not.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:38     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^and especially when we're being told the budget won't allow for many other extras, which many deem more important than center schools.


There is not enough time to make the programmatic changes by September 2016. It is similar to reverting the start times.


Of course there is.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:37     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


Nah. Countywide people aren't thinking about centers. At certain schools with overcrowding, yes, but for the majority of students who aren't affected one way or the other by centers, who cares.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:37     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


They will not post it as a ballot question.


How on earth would you know this?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:37     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:^^^and especially when we're being told the budget won't allow for many other extras, which many deem more important than center schools.


There is not enough time to make the programmatic changes by September 2016. It is similar to reverting the start times.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:35     Subject: On the chopping block: AAP Centers
^^^and especially when we're being told the budget won't allow for many other extras, which many deem more important than center schools.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:35     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.


They will not post it as a ballot question.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:34     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an AAP parent, I would absolutely welcome a change that required kids who have LLIV programs at their base schools to go to the base school. I've seen no evidence whatsoever that my kid's academic experience was enhanced in any fashion by attending our center and certainly not when you consider the effect of transportation across town. Send 'em back, I say. No need for all this nonsense.


Another AAP parent who feels the same way. Send everyone back to their base schools. Problem solved.


Not going to happen.


I think it will. If FCPS were actually to put this to a vote, they would see that a majority of residents favor ending center options, especially in areas with already large LLIV populations.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:07     Subject: Re:On the chopping block: AAP Centers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think FCPS should put a cap on total school population. Elementary schools, especially AAP centers, over 800 kids need to go. Too many logistical problems. These properties aren't built to accommodate so many children.


Facilities plans on increasing school sizes across the county.


Link to March 16, 2015 work session presentation:

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9UMFTL7ED864/$file/School%20Size%20and%20Capacity%20Power%20Point%20SB%20WS%203%2016.pdf