The test is for the standards. The curriculum is to teach.

If you don't even understand or accept that much then you have nothing meaningful to add, let alone accusing anyone of dodging anything.

Oh, give it a rest. We all know the difference and we all know what is driving the train.

Anonymous wrote:

Strictly speaking, a school system does not implement the Common Core standards. A school system implements a curriculum that is aligned to the Common Core standards.

Nice dodge.

Not a dodge, it's a FACT. Common Core is not a curriculum. The curriculum is up to the school system.

If you don't even understand or accept that much then you have nothing meaningful to add, let alone accusing anyone of dodging anything.

Testing weeds out the terrible schools

Name the schools, but more importantly the students and what has happened to them.

Testing weeds out the terrible schools

Prior to testing I taught in a school which would have bombed the tests. I taught for many years--the teachers in that school were terrific. They accomplished a lot with little help--but the kids were still behind.

Testing weeds out the terrible schools

No. It reveals schools with students who are struggling and harms those schools that were doing well by requiring constant testing.

Anonymous wrote:Testing weeds out the terrible schools

Well, that was the idea. But it didn't really work out that way.

Anonymous wrote:

Getting rid of the Common Core standards won't get rid of the testing.

Get rid of both. One drives the other.

Which drives which, and how?

Testing weeds out the terrible schools

Getting rid of the Common Core standards won't get rid of the testing.

Get rid of both. One drives the other.

Anonymous wrote:

"[i]Findlay City Schools Superintendent Ed Kurt says he isn’t against Common Core standards, but he does have a problem with the amount of state testing that educators are being forced to conduct in the classroom."

But, the testing is required. And, the tests are for Common Core standards.

The testing requirement has nothing to do with the Common Core standards. I know this because

1. The testing requirement comes from the No Child Left Behind Act.
2. Congress passed the No Child Left Behind Act years before anybody started work on the Common Core standards.
3. The testing requirement also applies to states that did not adopt the Common Core standards.

Getting rid of the Common Core standards won't get rid of the testing.

Anonymous wrote:

2. The Common Core standards (not NCLB) require testing.

horse and carriage

Please explain. What is the horse? What is the carriage?

http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/28_02/28_02_karp.shtml

Pretty good explanation of the problems.

Excellent analysis!

Like I keep saying, the fuckups you keep pointing to are LOCAL. If you are having those problems, then it is LOCAL. You quite likely have braindead administrators along with a lot of other mediocrity and cluelessness going on in your school (probably yourself included), which is not at all the fault of NCLB or CC.

Dead wrong on where the fault lies.

2. The Common Core standards (not NCLB) require testing.

horse and carriage