Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having taught in diverse schools, I think many of the standards are going to be almost impossible for some kids. I think the K standards are way out of line.

If poor kids can't do something, but middle-class kids can, then expecting a child to do that thing is not a developmentally inappropriate expectation.

Some middle class kids can meet these standards because of what went on before entering kindergarten. Until we can standardize what happens to each child from birth, we are going to have plenty of kids who can't meet these standards. More than 50% of all school aged kids come from poverty so until we figure out how to fix that, kids will continue to not meet these standards.

But that only moves the question back a step. How will too many, inappropriate standards make NCLB worse?

Teachers will have to spend time on less important standards because these standards will impact the school's performance. Inappropriate standards are those that are too hard for many and unimportant.

Anonymous wrote:

I'm certain that I've already typed those exact words at least twice, and I haven't had an answer yet.)

Once more:
too many standards
inappropriate standards

But that only moves the question back a step. How will too many, inappropriate standards make NCLB worse?

I'm certain that I've already typed those exact words at least twice, and I haven't had an answer yet.)

Once more:
too many standards
inappropriate standards

Anonymous wrote:Having taught in diverse schools, I think many of the standards are going to be almost impossible for some kids. I think the K standards are way out of line.

If poor kids can't do something, but middle-class kids can, then expecting a child to do that thing is not a developmentally inappropriate expectation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrotearents who exchange their food stamps for drugs or alcohol.


What proportion of parents who use food stamps do this, do you think?

And do you think that public education for the middle class is just fine?

I taught before the testing. My observation is that with the NCLB testing (observing my own kids) that education went down. Common Core standards will make it worse.

How will the Common Core standards make NCLB worse?

(I'm certain that I've already typed those exact words at least twice, and I haven't had an answer yet.)

Anonymous wrote:

Data for what? Data about what?

The feedback that they brag about. Normally, in a study or survey, you would be able to access it.

Could you please provide an example of a study or survey in education, comparable to the Common Core standards project, that makes the feedback available to the public?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrotearents who exchange their food stamps for drugs or alcohol.

What proportion of parents who use food stamps do this, do you think?

And do you think that public education for the middle class is just fine?

I taught before NCLB. My kids were in elementary when it started. Sea change for the negative with all the testing.

So it's not parents who exchange their food stamps for drugs or alcohol that's the problem, it's NCLB?

Data for what? Data about what?

The feedback that they brag about. Normally, in a study or survey, you would be able to access it.

Having taught in diverse schools, I think many of the standards are going to be almost impossible for some kids. I think the K standards are way out of line.

Anonymous wrotearents who exchange their food stamps for drugs or alcohol.


What proportion of parents who use food stamps do this, do you think?

And do you think that public education for the middle class is just fine?

I taught before NCLB. My kids were in elementary when it started. Sea change for the negative with all the testing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anti: Teachers weren't involved.
Not anti: Yes they were. *examples*
Anti: Those people don't count.

LOL! One quote and you still cannot provide data.

Data for what? Data about what?

Anonymous wrotearents who exchange their food stamps for drugs or alcohol.


What proportion of parents who use food stamps do this, do you think?

And do you think that public education for the middle class is just fine?

I taught before the testing. My observation is that with the NCLB testing (observing my own kids) that education went down. Common Core standards will make it worse.

Anonymous wrote:Parents who do not even turn on Sesame st, but watch soaps or other programs inappropriate for young kids.

Good grief. Nobody watches soaps anymore. There are barely any soaps left to watch. And I'm finding it very, very, very hard to believe that the cause of the achievement gap is Young and the Restless on the TV instead of Sesame Street. For one thing, they're not even on at the same time.

Anti: Teachers weren't involved.
Not anti: Yes they were. *examples*
Anti: Those people don't count.

LOL! One quote and you still cannot provide data.